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this hope radio for the masses as lino

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between July 8 1947 the Army Air Force

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has announced are applying there has

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been found and is now in the possession

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of the army the game is rigged changed

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the game game changer I occasionally

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think how quickly our differences

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worldwide would vanish if we were facing

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an alien threat from outside this way

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network and kgr a the global rain

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we need your help to get to the year

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black with jimmy touch on the game

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change in that word

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good evening fade to black

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the spoke radio for

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math says how you doing how you doing

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November 12 November 12 2008 een

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319 days into the new year just 46 days

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always we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown Burbank California and I would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the United

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north and south far and near

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game changer Network and K G RA the

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planet I am your host Jimmy Church

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what is cracking everybody how you do it

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how you doing how you doing all right

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tonight kicking off the week

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very special guest joining the show mr.

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Christopher O'Brien is here man oh man I

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can't wait for this Chris is gonna talk

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about his latest research and projects

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years over 25 years he doesn't look that

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old 25 years in this game and we're

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gonna talk about all of that tonight

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tomorrow night Johnny Enoch is here

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first time guests Johnny

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yaki excited about that kids Johnny anak

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from the great white north and tomorrow

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night we're gonna break this story

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tomorrow I'm gonna give you the leak to

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the story the new area 51 where is it

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what is it we're gonna talk about a lot

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to get Patrick on unfaded to block right

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here is Twitter right here is a hashtag

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f2b alright so that's the conversations

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you can see this in the camera let's see

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that's what's going on everything is

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can also email Jimmy at Jimmy Church

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the email as I can during the show and I

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do have a cool email that I received

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right before the show tonight I'm gonna

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read that in a little bit okay breaking

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news I hate to do this but yes earlier

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today rest in peace

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Stan Lee the legendary and it's that is

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certainly applies to Stan the writer the

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editor publisher of Marvel Comics who in

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in most eyes including my own Stan Lee

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was a real-life superhero he died he

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passed away today he was 95 years old

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and he just think about it Thor and

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spider-man and everything else that that

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he created for us and made growing up

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pretty cool right and the success of

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Marvel Marvel Studios and the movies

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which I watch them all I do I do

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passed away today and he rocked it all

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the way to 95 and whatever the last

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Marvel I don't even know what the last

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thing that we saw which was a couple of

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weeks ago Rita and I but Stan always

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who's driving the bus I was like lad

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Stan you know you always look for Stan's

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little thing that he did in in every

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single movie but he passed away today

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and like I said he rocked it

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everybody's thinking the same

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every time you saw standing a movie you

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know doing the cameo it's like man he's

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still alive I mean 95 he did it his way

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rest in peace Stan and there you go 95

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all right other breaking news and this

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several sightings of an unidentified

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flying object to UFO at astronomical

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speed air quotes before disappearing off

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the coast of Ireland as sparked an

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investigation by the Irish aviation

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authority the UFO was first spotted by a

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British Airways pilot last Friday

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air-traffic control ATC to ask if there

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in the airspace a Virgin Airlines Boeing

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747 pilot then join the conversation you

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the same thing so we're gonna have to

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authority said that it has filed a

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now and the other thing is this and I

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one of them very specifically said these

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weird you know that combined with the

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those objects that were coming down and

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meteors Matt or audio a view of faux

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years five years every single night you

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anything it's just right here and that's

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your support all right let's get this

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show cracking happy birthday to today

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Neil Young Neil Young is 73 years old

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now today's his birthday but he lost his

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home in the SoCal fires this weekend yep

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yep quite a few celebrities did and

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although that's kind of expected first

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off at Southern California's second it's

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Malibu and that's who lives out there

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but homes or homes and property is

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property and that kind of destruction is

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is awful to go through and Neil Young

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lost his home this weekend and Hathaway

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today is 36 she was in she wasn't on

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peyote I Anne Hathaway and Hathaway

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today is 36 Oh TV on this day in history

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1980 more than three years after its

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launch the planetary probe Voyager 1

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feature right

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Voyager 1 gets to within 77,000 miles of

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Saturn and starts beaming back high

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resolutions to Planet Earth

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high-resolution images and then it was

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revealed in those images most people

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don't know we thought that Saturn had

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like three rings six rings you know

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that's what we could count you know with

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the telescope and then we find out I

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forget what the number was like 200

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rings some were like braided together

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and weaved and and it was crazy to fight

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all those physics that we thought were

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taking place around and those rings of

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Saturn also

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discovered I think three new moons and I

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think that with those high-resolution

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images they found out I think was Titan

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that Titan had an atmosphere I'm old I

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can't remember everything but I try to

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but that was uh that was a pretty big

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day and it happened on this day in 1980

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fader fact are you ready fader fact

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right now I'm looking at the clock and

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this is my fader fact the earth has

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traveled more than 15,000 miles since

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the start of this show 15 minutes ago

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and that is your fader fact all right

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tonight very special guest Chris O'Brien

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is here very excited about that we're

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gonna talk about all of his latest

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research and his projects that he is

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working on he's been in this field for

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over 25 years

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crypto right Bigfoot cattle mutilations

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UFOs sightings he's been doing it for a

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very very long time we're gonna discuss

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all of that and what is going on not

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only with our community with all of this

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stuff because he's got a great exciting

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project that we announced last month on

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this show going on over in crushed stone

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we're gonna talk about that tonight too

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as well and what he is doing in the

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future okay so we're gonna talk about

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all of that tonight with Chris O'Brien

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tomorrow night first time guests Jonny

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Enoch is here we're gonna talk about the

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new area 51 that you don't know about

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that is tomorrow night we're also gonna

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talk about loss history and we're gonna

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do some Egypt and we're gonna discuss

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South and Central America tomorrow night

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all of that with Johnny

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Enoch Wednesday night Patrick wood is

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here now I had Patrick on coast to coast

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last night I think we did like two and a

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half straight hours last night with

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Patrick and I got to the end of the show

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and I was like well there's too much

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more to discuss here it's a great

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conversation so we move stuff around and

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we've got Patrick back joining us I'm

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fade to black on Wednesday night I'm

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calling the show technocracy 2.0 because

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we did 1.0 last night Thursday night's

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another Fator night with Theresa and

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Aris Devine

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you can see on the airwaves followed by

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open lines all night long now all right

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I got to talk to you about something for

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a second and let's just get this going

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let me hit this Rivermen coffee yep

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well here it is it's Monday night and

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somehow we made it here to start off

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another great week on the show right on

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fade to black but for us and for most of

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California it was a very very long

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weekend and Friday was one of the most

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trying days for our community here in

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California with all of the news coming

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out of the Central Valley and the town

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of paradise in dealing with the massive

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fires that are still burning here right

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now today I think that all of us just

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wanted the time to pass as quickly as

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possible right we just want everything

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to end we want it to stop burning and

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then the winds kicked off again

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overnight you know so we'll see but the

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news and the video of the destruction is

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unbelievable

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and we got the news yesterday that la

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Marzulli researcher friend and show host

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with us here on kgr a lost his home and

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studio to the fires and you see here's

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the thing my job my gig is radio that's

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what I do that's how I take care of my

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family and we all have a job but mine is

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broadcasting and all weekend I was over

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at coast right I wrap on fade to black

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and boom I roll over to coast to coast

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for the weekend and during the show over

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at coast this weekend I have a large

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monitor in front of me in the studio

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with breaking news on it and we have to

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do that this is a live national radio

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show the biggest overnight radio show

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the largest you know for 25 years we

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have a large audience so part of that

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you know when you broadcast for for a

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network the biggest network in the world

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which is premier I Heart Radio if

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there's breaking news I have to do it so

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I've got you know the the new

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as always live in front of me and we do

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that for the obvious reasons right you

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know I have to know what's going on and

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if something does break I have to report

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it but there's another thing altogether

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when the breaking news is a huge fire

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burning just north of the studio right

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as I'm broadcasting and this time around

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I didn't have thankfully anything crazy

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that I had to break into the show with

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but I did have to watch it now over the

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last four or five years there have been

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a few times when it has happened and I

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don't like it when I have to break into

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a show with breaking news

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because the sort of breaking news that

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you interrupt his show with is always

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bad it's not good news that you break in

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you know to the broadcast with and I get

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it it's my job but it doesn't make it

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easy or something that you get used to

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but I do have a responsibility to the

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audience and to the network but it's the

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part of the job that I just don't enjoy

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I don't now what it does do for me is

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that it puts everything into perspective

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in a very direct sense in that life can

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change for you in an instant

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the kind of changes in life that last

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forever so when you hear me say things

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like you know I don't do negative well I

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don't because I have to live with it you

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know and it's my job and I have my

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reasons for saying that I just don't do

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negative and when I do say it I mean it

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the last thing I want to do seriously

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is fan flames that's it I don't do

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negative I I'm not I'm not gonna do it

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I'm not gonna create negativity for you

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and all of you really seriously should

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do what I do don't do negative life is

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short

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so this is my advice and I have said

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this to my kids since they were born

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always do the right thing if you're

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listening to me right now always do the

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right thing every minute every second of

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every day if you're out there posting on

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Facebook or on Twitter negative you're

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part of the problem so I want you to

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stop and think about did you post

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something negative today did you say

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something negative to somebody did you

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was it political did you attack somebody

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for for being right or left did you do

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that don't do it right

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something about UFOs or ghosts or the

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paranormal or time traveler or dogs or

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cats or vegetarians me neither did you

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post something negative today well you

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you wish you to take it back don't do it

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just don't you don't want the last thing

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the light the thing that everyone will

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remember about you is that you were

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being an ass that what you want or even

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worse that if something bad happens to

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somebody anybody and the last thing you

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did or said to that person wasn't cool

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wasn't nice right is that what you want

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is that the legacy you want always do

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the right thing no matter what happens

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because if you do you run clean your

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mind your conscience everything your day

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is a bright light in the night too by

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the way so with that it's another great

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week coming up on fade to black

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and I really look forward to each Monday

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and this particular Monday couldn't get

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here fast enough and I am serious listen

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to me

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thank you for that we thank you for that

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all of you seriously so today I got this

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email and I want to read it to you

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it says hello Jimmy I listened to your

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coast-to-coast show last night and I was

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laughing about the bit on the triumph a

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song I have a rural newspaper route and

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I listened to the show every night after

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coast to coast is over a local radio

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show takes over at 5:00 a.m.

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Willis and Schneider in the morning

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hello Willis and Schneider will isn't

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Schneider who wears on school they have

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a call-in contest every morning using a

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trivia question and offering a chance to

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win tickets to an event happening

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locally this morning

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the tickets they offered were for New

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Year's Eve party at the Hard Rock

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Roxy know where they are having a

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journey event with a journey tribute

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band the trivia question was about an

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early journey album in which there was a

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second lead singer in addition to Steve

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Perry the question was who was the

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second lead singer so I wanted to call

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in and say it was Jimmy Church so keep

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those golden pipes tuned to Jimmy and

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that's from Rachel now this is the thing

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and thank you for the email that triumph

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humor last night during the show was me

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just trying to deflect from the fires

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that were burning on the monitor in

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front of me and and the darkness and the

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craziness and I'm trying to keep it

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light all right I'm just trying to get

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through the show and have fun I don't

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want to be brought down with negativity

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and have that broadcast through the

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airwaves it's not what I do and that's

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how I clean up my own mind I crack a

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joke about Rick Emmett and you know

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hopefully it made everyone laugh because

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Rachel did and that's what I do all

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right

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there's so much negativity in this world

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right now and I don't have the time for

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it I

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rounded so much that if I stopped and

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read or got affected by all of this

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negativity then it's gonna come through

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this microphone and it's gonna go back

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to you and it's gonna bum every that's I

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just don't do it

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I don't react to it and when I had said

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last week and when I was like you know

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what man I just block people I really do

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you know and if you think about it with

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all of the broadcaster's out there and

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all of the show hosts and the people on

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the news and the things that are on

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television and all of that stuff that's

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out there if those if those people

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reacted to negativity and spoke about it

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on the air I just got this tweet I just

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read this tweet I just saw this post I

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saw this thing and and I'm you know what

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what would that say what would that do

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to you you know and I am the exact same

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way I just don't do it I don't and I'm

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not going to so practice practice I do

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it you should do it too it'll change you

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you know it'll change you won't be

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dragged out there is nothing worse than

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walking around with luggage hanging off

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if you big fifty pounds Samsonite bags

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posted something on Facebook you went

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and read something to react it to it he

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something I need to you know think about

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that for a second because if anything

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tragic happens anything crazy in your

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life or somebody else's and the last

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thing that the last correspondence was

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you being an ass that's your legacy and

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you need to think about that this is

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fade to black I am your host Jimmy

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church tonight it is Chris O'Brien Chris

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O'Brien I cannot wait for this

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conversation professional man he hosted

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I'm gonna ask him about this when he

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when he's read it be the first question

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out of the gate he else into para cast

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all right welcome back fade to black

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Emile's jimmy church tonight christopher

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o'brien

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is with us tomorrow night Johnny Enoch

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is here Wednesday night Patrick wood

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discussing technocracy 2.0 Thursday

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night another Fator night Theresa and I

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are is gonna be here divine frequency on

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the airwaves followed by open lines all

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night long but tonight it's Chris and

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Chris O'Brien has devoted over 20 years

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25 years to investigating and

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researching hundreds of unexplained

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events in South Central Colorado North

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Central New Mexico's San Luis Valley

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also known as the SLV

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his investigation is detailed in his

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mysterious Valley book trilogy and field

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investigations of UFOs cattle

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mutilations crypto creatures in mr.

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cetera is one of the largest databases

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of unusual occurrences gathered from a

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single region his latest project UFO DAP

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UFO DAAP is actively monitoring the

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airspace over the sov we announced that

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last month with Chris here on fade to

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black he has appeared on over 70 TV

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shows including ancient aliens coast to

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coast fade to black right here UFO

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Hunters Inside Edition extra etc and it

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has produced the film it could happen

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tomorrow winner of two 2012

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EBE Film Festival Awards for Best

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Feature M People's Choice Awards his

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latest book stalking the herd is the

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most comprehensive book written

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attempting to unravel the cattle

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mutilation mystery and I would like to

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welcome back to fade to black mr.

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Christopher O'Brien Chris you there good

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evening how are you man I'm going

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through kind of a chest cold so if I

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start sounding like coqui the Frog don't

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wonder why you sound great

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you sound that's all that matters

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do you remember what was that that's

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skit on SS Saturday Night Live Ricardo

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Montalban right it's better to to look

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marvelous than to feel marvelous right

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so that's all that you sound great

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that's that's all that matters Chris

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that's all that matters

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so incredible yeah totally yeah Billy

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Crystal yeah but last month I want to

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start here before we go backwards I want

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to do a little current events we

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announced the UFO da P last last month

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here on fade to black with you and we

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did that little Kickstarter for you and

738
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I thank you very much absolutely and you

739
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know every little bit counts but what's

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what's the latest have you started

741
00:36:38,569 --> 00:36:34,220
collecting data yeah we have actually

742
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it's been managed it's a lot more

743
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complicated and technical when you have

744
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the kind of setup that we have and so it

745
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takes a little bit of time to get

746
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everything dialed in but right at that

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point now where we have our main cameras

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dialed in and we do have a couple of

749
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things that we need to tweak on it it's

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not quite level which is one thing

751
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:01,980
that's gonna be an issue but we have our

752
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the guy who did all our installation

753
00:37:10,490 --> 00:37:07,740
work Gary Meyer he's actually a PI you

754
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do right now he's his father's been ill

755
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and he's out there taking care of him

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he'll be back in about a week and so

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00:37:18,349 --> 00:37:16,530
we'll get him up there just and put it

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up about a degree from left to right

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00:37:22,730 --> 00:37:21,450
it's just widely planted and we need to

760
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shore it up a little bit when we pull

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all the way out 36 times off uncle zoom

762
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,630
there's a little bit of a shake there so

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we need to we need to get that taken

764
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care of but we have our software is is

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operating and we've got the detection

766
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the detection algorithms are getting

767
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enough you know bugs are getting out of

768
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that and it's um it's a lot more

769
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involved and it's a lot more technical

770
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than I think the average person would

771
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imagine it's it's pretty involved I a

772
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lot of it's over my head that's why we

773
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have a next Cisco engineer and a next

774
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Disney computer scientists that are

775
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doing all this this these algorithms and

776
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stuff I've you know it's way above my

777
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,640
pay grade right and Chris can I get you

778
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to speak up into the microphone it

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sounds a little different

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00:38:22,570 --> 00:38:17,550
then soundcheck are using the same

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00:38:23,870 --> 00:38:22,580
microphone yes I am Wow okay all right

782
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:23,880
hmm

783
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:27,510
okay so moving on of that well we'll

784
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find out as we continue on the the data

785
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,760
itself have you seen because and you can

786
00:38:39,230 --> 00:38:37,440
describe to the audience actually what's

787
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:39,240
going on well we'll go over that again

788
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:41,970
but you're triangulating and locating

789
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:45,170
with automation and custom software

790
00:38:53,180 --> 00:38:50,640
objects in the sky have you has the

791
00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:53,190
triangulation worked and have you been

792
00:38:58,370 --> 00:38:56,760
able to see things well we've been able

793
00:39:00,980 --> 00:38:58,380
to see things we've had a couple three

794
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:00,990
events that um there were pretty

795
00:39:06,590 --> 00:39:03,330
anomalous at that point we hadn't got

796
00:39:10,010 --> 00:39:06,600
the the actual user interface the goofy

797
00:39:13,340 --> 00:39:10,020
operating so we couldn't record but one

798
00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:13,350
of our guys was monitoring for about

799
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:15,150
three straight nights was monitoring a

800
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:17,970
quite a number of hours and you did have

801
00:39:23,540 --> 00:39:20,210
a very interesting event of a light that

802
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:23,550
appeared to shoot down a light into the

803
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:25,770
area and it actually blinded the camera

804
00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:28,320
we had a huge white flash that we could

805
00:39:34,340 --> 00:39:31,980
not it seemed to come from above and we

806
00:39:36,530 --> 00:39:34,350
were unable to determine actually where

807
00:39:38,090 --> 00:39:36,540
it came from although we did have just

808
00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:38,100
prior to that we had an object that was

809
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:40,500
approaching us from the upper I think

810
00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:43,440
left-hand side from the north north by

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North West coming in and the camera

812
00:39:54,530 --> 00:39:52,859
responded to it but he he was manually

813
00:39:57,590 --> 00:39:54,540
controlling there at this point and when

814
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:57,600
he went to look at it yeah we were our

815
00:40:01,970 --> 00:40:00,320
camera was blinded for an instant and we

816
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:01,980
unfortunately at that point this was

817
00:40:06,849 --> 00:40:04,250
pretty early on we hadn't got the

818
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:06,859
graphic user interface but the auto

819
00:40:11,420 --> 00:40:09,510
portion of that working and so we were

820
00:40:14,270 --> 00:40:11,430
unable to go into record mode but we've

821
00:40:16,510 --> 00:40:14,280
got all that figured out now so as soon

822
00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:16,520
as we get a really really nice event

823
00:40:21,230 --> 00:40:19,470
that'll be all recorded the other camera

824
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:21,240
is still being it's still being worked

825
00:40:26,780 --> 00:40:24,270
on getting the the it's called a VPN

826
00:40:28,670 --> 00:40:26,790
it's a Virtual Private Network then we

827
00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:28,680
need to establish back to

828
00:40:33,260 --> 00:40:30,660
California because we're going into our

829
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,270
trunk line and so that's it caused more

830
00:40:38,980 --> 00:40:35,760
more headaches for us because we're not

831
00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:38,990
going to like a you know your standard

832
00:40:44,750 --> 00:40:43,140
is IPS you know the Internet company

833
00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:44,760
with a router and everything we're going

834
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:46,920
right into a trunk line so we have to

835
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:49,170
establish a virtual private network

836
00:40:53,059 --> 00:40:51,119
through the internet for that one and

837
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:53,069
we're still working on that now

838
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:56,510
with this what do you hope to achieve

839
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:00,720
and what's the goal well well the goal

840
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:02,510
is very simple

841
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:05,970
you know all of us that are interested

842
00:41:12,980 --> 00:41:10,290
in the the UAP or UFO subject would

843
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:12,990
agree that most of what we're seeing in

844
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:16,410
today is very reactive it's it's going

845
00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:18,300
through databases it's collecting

846
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:21,150
information it's everything is after the

847
00:41:24,109 --> 00:41:21,569
fact

848
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:24,119
everything is downstream from the actual

849
00:41:29,329 --> 00:41:26,609
event and what we're attempting to do is

850
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:29,339
capture these events in a in a very very

851
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:32,130
hot spot area which is the San Luis

852
00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:33,930
Valley which I've demonstrated over the

853
00:41:38,420 --> 00:41:36,510
since the you know the late 80s or early

854
00:41:41,230 --> 00:41:38,430
90s I've demonstrated this is an

855
00:41:44,510 --> 00:41:41,240
extremely active area that it has a

856
00:41:46,430 --> 00:41:44,520
fairly consistent amount of unexplained

857
00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:46,440
aerial activity so what we've done is

858
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:48,630
we've set up two cameras and what we're

859
00:41:53,539 --> 00:41:50,730
what we're hoping to do with these

860
00:41:56,450 --> 00:41:53,549
cameras is automatically these cameras

861
00:41:59,150 --> 00:41:56,460
are being caught basically and

862
00:42:03,710 --> 00:41:59,160
programmed with algorithms how to

863
00:42:06,530 --> 00:42:03,720
capture unusual area local activity

864
00:42:08,450 --> 00:42:06,540
factor out any conventional explanation

865
00:42:10,910 --> 00:42:08,460
and then go ahead and record that and

866
00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:10,920
have all the cameras in the system

867
00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:13,380
ultimately we're going to have four but

868
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:15,000
right now we're at work you would have

869
00:42:21,380 --> 00:42:17,609
what those cameras focus in on the event

870
00:42:24,740 --> 00:42:21,390
and with two cameras looking at it at an

871
00:42:29,089 --> 00:42:24,750
event you can determine distance eyes

872
00:42:30,829 --> 00:42:29,099
airspeed altitude azimuth you know all

873
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:30,839
these various things that we really want

874
00:42:37,059 --> 00:42:34,319
to know real-time and that combined with

875
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:37,069
a pretty sophisticated package of

876
00:42:42,370 --> 00:42:40,890
detection gear that will look for

877
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:42,380
changes in the Earth's magnetic

878
00:42:47,830 --> 00:42:45,430
field changes in the Earth's gravity

879
00:42:51,870 --> 00:42:47,840
with this type of scientific information

880
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:51,880
and acoustic recordings for instance

881
00:42:57,730 --> 00:42:55,690
electromagnetic Trifield meter

882
00:43:00,340 --> 00:42:57,740
fluctuations in the electromagnetic

883
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:00,350
spectrum with this kind of information

884
00:43:06,130 --> 00:43:03,280
real-time and then getting it again

885
00:43:09,550 --> 00:43:06,140
duplicating that information you could

886
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:09,560
write a scientific paper and we really

887
00:43:13,330 --> 00:43:11,210
feel that this is the direction that you

888
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:13,340
vollentine eads to be going and to get

889
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:15,770
proactive to really attempt to get hard

890
00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:17,690
data now there's a lot of naysayers out

891
00:43:22,210 --> 00:43:19,280
there that say well they tried that up

892
00:43:24,460 --> 00:43:22,220
at skinwalker ranch and and you know it

893
00:43:26,350 --> 00:43:24,470
was the trickster got involved and and

894
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:26,360
you know every time they thought they

895
00:43:29,890 --> 00:43:28,130
had something it would pull the wires

896
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:29,900
out or we know there's all these

897
00:43:34,510 --> 00:43:32,210
apocryphal stories and we understand all

898
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:34,520
that but in the San Luis Valley we have

899
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:37,910
a 360 degree you know we can see 200

900
00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:40,640
miles in all directions and it's a

901
00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:42,950
little difference in you know a little

902
00:43:47,890 --> 00:43:44,980
Hidden Valley and Utah we've got

903
00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:47,900
incredible vistas and we're comfortably

904
00:43:52,030 --> 00:43:49,220
in five thousand square miles of

905
00:43:56,170 --> 00:43:52,040
airspace so we're hoping to make history

906
00:44:00,760 --> 00:43:56,180
day basically is there when you start to

907
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:00,770
collect this data you also need to start

908
00:44:06,370 --> 00:44:03,200
to categorize and hopefully debunk

909
00:44:09,490 --> 00:44:06,380
certain things too as well where we can

910
00:44:11,860 --> 00:44:09,500
remove aircraft you know normal man-made

911
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:11,870
stuff or what possibly could be a

912
00:44:17,140 --> 00:44:14,050
satellite and then we have the truly

913
00:44:19,330 --> 00:44:17,150
unexplainable stuff that don't fit into

914
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:19,340
those categories will you be able to do

915
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:23,090
that yes there's a very good program

916
00:44:28,990 --> 00:44:26,450
called flightradar24 that allows you to

917
00:44:32,020 --> 00:44:29,000
instantly in real time factor out any

918
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:32,030
transplant 100 aircraft in the area and

919
00:44:36,250 --> 00:44:33,920
that stuff we're going to be eventually

920
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:36,260
tying in with that there's also the NASA

921
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:40,730
blue light project there's most of the

922
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:42,650
earth satellites I think we'll be able

923
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:46,850
to determine our way up there in the sky

924
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:48,770
possibly we will get some high fliers

925
00:44:56,170 --> 00:44:52,640
that are trying to pretend to be

926
00:44:58,620 --> 00:44:56,180
satellites I'm not really sure how many

927
00:45:01,180 --> 00:44:58,630
these sworn satellites are being listed

928
00:45:05,290 --> 00:45:01,190
I'm sure there's some up there that are

929
00:45:07,660 --> 00:45:05,300
officially not acknowledged so I think

930
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:07,670
for the most part the the man-made

931
00:45:12,010 --> 00:45:09,890
objects was going to be pretty easy to

932
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:12,020
factor out the things that I'm really

933
00:45:16,059 --> 00:45:13,730
interested in are some of the natural

934
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:16,069
phenomena that may be occurring in the

935
00:45:20,859 --> 00:45:18,079
San Luis Valley that have not yet been

936
00:45:22,660 --> 00:45:20,869
defined piezoelectric discharges from

937
00:45:26,049 --> 00:45:22,670
the quartz inside the Sangre de Cristo

938
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:26,059
Mountains for instance strange lighting

939
00:45:31,049 --> 00:45:27,530
effects out at the Great Sand Dunes

940
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:31,059
where you can get some static electrical

941
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:33,170
charges that are built up by the wind

942
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:36,290
and the sand there's two billion dollars

943
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:39,050
worth of methane about eight miles away

944
00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:41,359
from our you know front-row camera and

945
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:43,670
there may be times when the methane

946
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:46,880
actually flores's and so any of

947
00:45:52,059 --> 00:45:48,130
low-to-the-ground

948
00:45:54,549 --> 00:45:52,069
colorful you know miss for instance we

949
00:45:56,589 --> 00:45:54,559
might be able to factor out some

950
00:45:59,650 --> 00:45:56,599
sightings from the past that reported

951
00:46:01,930 --> 00:45:59,660
those as as unusual crap let's say or

952
00:46:03,609 --> 00:46:01,940
lighted craft so there's natural

953
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:03,619
phenomena to that that we're very

954
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:05,839
interested in capturing because it's

955
00:46:12,849 --> 00:46:09,440
very rare and and I don't know of any

956
00:46:14,829 --> 00:46:12,859
good examples of you know for instance

957
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:14,839
it's like the Brown Mountain lights for

958
00:46:19,180 --> 00:46:16,010
instance which are a lot more

959
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:19,190
predictable in a sense but but we're

960
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:21,670
looking we're looking to be able to

961
00:46:28,329 --> 00:46:25,130
factor out all potential false positives

962
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:28,339
and really concentrate on on landings of

963
00:46:35,020 --> 00:46:32,000
the real anomalous you know intelligence

964
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:35,030
of flybys that aren't man-made now

965
00:46:39,299 --> 00:46:37,040
you've been you know in the San Luis

966
00:46:43,289 --> 00:46:39,309
Valley and investigating there since

967
00:46:45,970 --> 00:46:43,299
1992 that's that's that's a long time

968
00:46:48,609 --> 00:46:45,980
with all of the sightings that you have

969
00:46:51,849 --> 00:46:48,619
spent out there you did you know nearly

970
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:51,859
ten straight years investigating the

971
00:46:57,490 --> 00:46:54,710
valley when you look back at all the

972
00:46:58,799 --> 00:46:57,500
things that you have witnessed in a

973
00:47:01,780 --> 00:46:58,809
roundabout way

974
00:47:03,250 --> 00:47:01,790
can you venture to guess how how many of

975
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:03,260
those sightings were you want you know

976
00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:07,250
what that's et right that that is not

977
00:47:10,820 --> 00:47:08,310
from this planet

978
00:47:15,830 --> 00:47:10,830
you know it do you walk away with that

979
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:15,840
with that conclusion often well I'll

980
00:47:20,660 --> 00:47:17,610
tell you there have been there have been

981
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:20,670
some sightings that I you know I really

982
00:47:28,070 --> 00:47:23,370
just I just for the life of me I can't I

983
00:47:30,970 --> 00:47:28,080
can't say that it was anything there was

984
00:47:33,620 --> 00:47:30,980
hours that we know about officially

985
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:33,630
there was quite a number I've had

986
00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:35,910
sightings of small craft for instance

987
00:47:42,260 --> 00:47:39,240
that have been very very close to me jet

988
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:42,270
one sighting in particular was 150 feet

989
00:47:46,430 --> 00:47:44,250
away in broad daylight one o'clock in

990
00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:46,440
the afternoon as we were driving along

991
00:47:50,180 --> 00:47:47,940
this thing flew right in front of our

992
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:50,190
car at first I thought it was a model

993
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:52,050
airplane really close to us like some

994
00:47:59,060 --> 00:47:56,880
sort of remote you know RC type plane or

995
00:48:01,070 --> 00:47:59,070
something but then I realized no quite a

996
00:48:03,170 --> 00:48:01,080
quite a further away meaning it was much

997
00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:03,180
much bigger probably about 10 to 12 feet

998
00:48:09,140 --> 00:48:07,020
and this thing scooted by like a fishing

999
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:09,150
lure looked like somebody was reeling it

1000
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:11,490
in from across T or the other side of

1001
00:48:15,860 --> 00:48:13,770
this of the where fennel Valley to the

1002
00:48:17,330 --> 00:48:15,870
backside of the Sangre de Cristo's and

1003
00:48:19,220 --> 00:48:17,340
they had two other witnesses with me too

1004
00:48:24,170 --> 00:48:19,230
so it wasn't just it wasn't my

1005
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:24,180
imagination like what was that and and

1006
00:48:28,310 --> 00:48:25,680
these little things have been seen all

1007
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:28,320
the way back into the early 60s so this

1008
00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:30,450
is you know again one of those things

1009
00:48:34,970 --> 00:48:32,520
that well but you start doing the

1010
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:34,980
research and you start looking at wave

1011
00:48:38,990 --> 00:48:36,810
society in particular you know

1012
00:48:40,670 --> 00:48:39,000
descriptions of crafts and then you

1013
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:40,680
encounter something like that you know

1014
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:45,440
50 years later or 40 years later yes

1015
00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:47,970
it's kind of hard not to sit there and

1016
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:49,560
scratch your head and just go man

1017
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:51,570
there's something strange like you know

1018
00:48:54,830 --> 00:48:53,010
that you'll be that's one of the many

1019
00:48:57,530 --> 00:48:54,840
strange things flying around here but

1020
00:48:58,910 --> 00:48:57,540
it's consistent and these things have

1021
00:49:01,700 --> 00:48:58,920
been recorded going into the mountains

1022
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:01,710
there was a whole spate of them going in

1023
00:49:06,740 --> 00:49:02,970
and out of middle Creek Hill and

1024
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:06,750
lysandre's back in the 60s so that was

1025
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:08,880
pretty pretty amazing that the huge

1026
00:49:14,090 --> 00:49:11,610
craft to block out the Stars I've seen a

1027
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:14,100
couple of those one was rectangular one

1028
00:49:19,550 --> 00:49:17,400
was triangular those were very very

1029
00:49:21,070 --> 00:49:19,560
impressive even though there were no

1030
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:21,080
lights and there's no way to determine

1031
00:49:26,730 --> 00:49:22,240
the

1032
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:26,740
immense so it had to have been at least

1033
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:30,160
a mile mile and a half long so you know

1034
00:49:34,740 --> 00:49:31,210
craft like that

1035
00:49:37,260 --> 00:49:34,750
you just there's nothing that I know of

1036
00:49:41,220 --> 00:49:37,270
and I'm fairly well-read and I try to

1037
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:41,230
keep up on you know aerospace stuff and

1038
00:49:50,070 --> 00:49:47,290
I just just too big too large for for us

1039
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:50,080
to be able to to fly something like that

1040
00:49:55,170 --> 00:49:52,570
around without it being uh you know

1041
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:55,180
known known about and we're getting out

1042
00:50:01,560 --> 00:49:58,480
so yeah there's been quite a number and

1043
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:01,570
some of the weird natural so now I'm

1044
00:50:07,620 --> 00:50:04,480
going to you that there may be Christ

1045
00:50:10,980 --> 00:50:07,630
strange in nature in terms of maybe you

1046
00:50:13,230 --> 00:50:10,990
know something other let's say but it

1047
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:13,240
looks well outward appearances like

1048
00:50:18,109 --> 00:50:15,730
something natural on the enlarged I

1049
00:50:22,170 --> 00:50:18,119
can't cheat fireworks so like large

1050
00:50:24,930 --> 00:50:22,180
fireworks that that fly around I've seen

1051
00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:24,940
there was a completely uniform overcast

1052
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:27,369
sky below me and altitude lighting up

1053
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:30,130
the tops of trees for instance and then

1054
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:31,810
they only last a couple three seconds

1055
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:33,730
four seconds and they look like giant

1056
00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:36,609
bottle rockets that are fizzling out

1057
00:50:41,550 --> 00:50:39,580
I still have have yet to come up with an

1058
00:50:43,830 --> 00:50:41,560
explanation of what they are they're not

1059
00:50:46,859 --> 00:50:43,840
meteors because like I said I've seen

1060
00:50:48,450 --> 00:50:46,869
them we go to test guys so it's it's

1061
00:50:51,210 --> 00:50:48,460
just a whole potpourri of things out

1062
00:50:52,859 --> 00:50:51,220
there and you know I haven't seen one of

1063
00:50:55,530 --> 00:50:52,869
the big mother ships that land but all

1064
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:55,540
that all lit up like Christmas trees and

1065
00:51:00,900 --> 00:50:58,090
there have been descriptions of craft

1066
00:51:02,609 --> 00:51:00,910
there that some of the ranches have seen

1067
00:51:06,180 --> 00:51:02,619
and one of them the more remote areas

1068
00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:06,190
that that remind remind me of maybe not

1069
00:51:10,349 --> 00:51:08,200
quite as dramatic as the end ending

1070
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:10,359
scene of Close Encounters with stuff

1071
00:51:15,590 --> 00:51:12,130
that's huge you know the size of large

1072
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:15,600
buildings landing and guys pastures and

1073
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:18,940
it's it's just bewildering really I mean

1074
00:51:23,970 --> 00:51:21,970
I literally filled in myself hundreds

1075
00:51:27,330 --> 00:51:23,980
and hundreds of calls in ten years and

1076
00:51:29,310 --> 00:51:27,340
then you know just some of the stories

1077
00:51:30,990 --> 00:51:29,320
that you hear from you know people

1078
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:31,000
saying yeah my parents you know they

1079
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:33,010
told us kids man when they didn't first

1080
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:34,960
move there they saw this

1081
00:51:39,090 --> 00:51:37,570
you know and so many stories of

1082
00:51:41,730 --> 00:51:39,100
profitable stories to go all the way

1083
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:41,740
back into the twenties of about crash

1084
00:51:49,740 --> 00:51:45,760
fighting did what was did you have an

1085
00:51:52,940 --> 00:51:49,750
event that that got you into this before

1086
00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:52,950
you were you know a professional

1087
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:55,030
researcher and it you know got into

1088
00:52:02,520 --> 00:51:57,010
writing and broadcasting was there

1089
00:52:05,820 --> 00:52:02,530
something that brought you here well not

1090
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:05,830
really I moved to Santa Fe and I found

1091
00:52:09,870 --> 00:52:07,750
out within a week that that just wasn't

1092
00:52:12,780 --> 00:52:09,880
a good fit for myself and my girlfriend

1093
00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:12,790
and I had a couple that lived up in this

1094
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:15,190
and we saw good friends of ours and they

1095
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:17,050
said walking come on up here and and

1096
00:52:20,460 --> 00:52:18,610
check it out and see if you like it we

1097
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:20,470
got it next a couple three bedrooms and

1098
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:23,200
so I went up there there was only 155

1099
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:24,970
people that lived there at the time and

1100
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:28,330
it was the second night I was there half

1101
00:52:36,050 --> 00:52:32,410
the town showed up for a party which is

1102
00:52:38,610 --> 00:52:36,060
it very interesting right a wild party

1103
00:52:40,110 --> 00:52:38,620
but you know the only thing that I knew

1104
00:52:42,780 --> 00:52:40,120
about the San Luis Valley was

1105
00:52:45,980 --> 00:52:42,790
Mississippi the horse mutilation case

1106
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:45,990
which occurred way back in 67 in June or

1107
00:52:53,250 --> 00:52:50,770
September of 67 that I remember as a kid

1108
00:52:55,950 --> 00:52:53,260
when I was 10 seeing the Enquirer

1109
00:52:57,780 --> 00:52:55,960
headline of flying saucers killed my

1110
00:52:58,740 --> 00:52:57,790
horse and in the picture of sniffing

1111
00:53:00,750 --> 00:52:58,750
lying on the ground with the people

1112
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:00,760
working at it now I remember that

1113
00:53:05,250 --> 00:53:02,410
distinctly and I'd never actually been

1114
00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:05,260
to the valley but but I that's when I

1115
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:06,700
first found out about it all the way

1116
00:53:11,850 --> 00:53:10,480
back when I was 10 year old and and when

1117
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:11,860
I moved there that wasn't why I moved

1118
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:13,450
there I thought about all that stuff was

1119
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,890
ancient history and nothing was still

1120
00:53:21,690 --> 00:53:16,480
going on so for the first couple of

1121
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:21,700
years 8990 I didn't really I asked a few

1122
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:24,130
of the old-timers yes you know they

1123
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:26,290
anything was going on they looked at me

1124
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,450
like I had two heads so I figured pretty

1125
00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:30,400
you know pretty early on just to keep

1126
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:33,430
quiet about it but then things started

1127
00:53:37,590 --> 00:53:35,110
happening I started seeing things

1128
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:37,600
friends of mine started seeing things I

1129
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:40,510
have started to you know once I got to

1130
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:41,890
know people they would open up and say

1131
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:43,930
well you know I have seen a few things

1132
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:48,910
and so by 1991 and I I was trying to

1133
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:51,730
yeah pick up my ears and take notice you

1134
00:53:56,519 --> 00:53:54,130
know and go out and check places out I

1135
00:53:58,769 --> 00:53:56,529
saw a landing swirled landing circle

1136
00:54:02,339 --> 00:53:58,779
added you know the mineral Hot Springs

1137
00:54:06,839 --> 00:54:02,349
with big swirled down area and grass

1138
00:54:09,450 --> 00:54:06,849
from a landing the night before so I was

1139
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:09,460
pretty I had my eyes open and ears open

1140
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:12,130
and then by ninety-two then it really

1141
00:54:15,930 --> 00:54:14,049
started to pick up and then I that's

1142
00:54:18,660 --> 00:54:15,940
when I when I really started getting

1143
00:54:20,370 --> 00:54:18,670
involved as full time as I possibly

1144
00:54:22,890 --> 00:54:20,380
could I put three hundred thousand miles

1145
00:54:27,089 --> 00:54:22,900
on my little truck yard about six seven

1146
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:27,099
years the the nighttime sightings are

1147
00:54:32,339 --> 00:54:29,920
one thing but it's the daytime stuff

1148
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:32,349
when that happened in my opinion that's

1149
00:54:42,809 --> 00:54:41,220
excuse me people say yeah why don't you

1150
00:54:47,849 --> 00:54:42,819
have night vision you know why don't you

1151
00:54:49,799 --> 00:54:47,859
have there and the reason is because we

1152
00:54:51,450 --> 00:54:49,809
really want the daylight stuff that's

1153
00:54:53,999 --> 00:54:51,460
where you get all your scientific

1154
00:54:56,579 --> 00:54:54,009
information the nighttime stuff can be

1155
00:54:59,519 --> 00:54:56,589
dramatic we do have cameras and go down

1156
00:55:01,289 --> 00:54:59,529
to point zero zero one luck so you know

1157
00:55:04,499 --> 00:55:01,299
are any sort of moon lights going to

1158
00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:04,509
give us a pretty pretty nice image for a

1159
00:55:11,339 --> 00:55:07,380
night time it's very very efficient

1160
00:55:13,470 --> 00:55:11,349
light gathering but it's the it's the

1161
00:55:16,349 --> 00:55:13,480
daytime sightings that are really key

1162
00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:16,359
because you're able to really learn a

1163
00:55:21,509 --> 00:55:19,390
lot more information about about an

1164
00:55:24,089 --> 00:55:21,519
object when it's lying around if you

1165
00:55:27,779 --> 00:55:24,099
have a good optical zoom and you have

1166
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:27,789
different camera positions in that

1167
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:29,920
combined with with the magnetometer the

1168
00:55:34,799 --> 00:55:32,410
graviton where the M meters and the you

1169
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:34,809
know the acoustic recording there's some

1170
00:55:41,099 --> 00:55:37,450
real interesting recordings that have

1171
00:55:45,329 --> 00:55:41,109
been made over the years of UFO sounds

1172
00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:45,339
you know the low fifteen to twenty cycle

1173
00:55:51,799 --> 00:55:48,220
sounds up to about forty to forty five

1174
00:55:54,839 --> 00:55:51,809
cycles in that range there's a lot of

1175
00:55:57,900 --> 00:55:54,849
scientific information that can be

1176
00:56:00,299 --> 00:55:57,910
gleaned when these things do right angle

1177
00:56:02,579 --> 00:56:00,309
turn so when they reverse direction for

1178
00:56:05,489 --> 00:56:02,589
instance there is a very

1179
00:56:07,499 --> 00:56:05,499
powerful low frequency extremely low

1180
00:56:09,959 --> 00:56:07,509
frequency sound wave that's produced and

1181
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:09,969
if we can get good recordings of that

1182
00:56:15,299 --> 00:56:11,650
that's gonna that's gonna give us a

1183
00:56:19,950 --> 00:56:15,309
whole distance just like a candy box

1184
00:56:23,069 --> 00:56:19,960
full of data so this is really exciting

1185
00:56:26,579 --> 00:56:23,079
the level of Technology the cost of

1186
00:56:28,499 --> 00:56:26,589
equipment and you know the now the

1187
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,509
Internet is going out into these rural

1188
00:56:33,150 --> 00:56:30,640
areas where sightings tend to happen

1189
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:33,160
more frequently and once you get those

1190
00:56:37,170 --> 00:56:35,440
combinations of facts you got a perfect

1191
00:56:40,529 --> 00:56:37,180
storm that to go ahead and create

1192
00:56:43,309 --> 00:56:40,539
low-cost monitoring systems that can be

1193
00:56:46,650 --> 00:56:43,319
placed very efficiently and easily

1194
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:46,660
anywhere in the world we're doing this

1195
00:56:54,180 --> 00:56:50,559
now as a boiler plate because if you go

1196
00:56:55,709 --> 00:56:54,190
to you fo Daffy dot-com you'll notice

1197
00:56:56,339 --> 00:56:55,719
when you're soon as the site's up in

1198
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:56,349
about a week

1199
00:56:59,969 --> 00:56:58,210
you'll notice that we'll have packages

1200
00:57:03,029 --> 00:56:59,979
that you can actually buy that are

1201
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:03,039
extremely low costs that are just we're

1202
00:57:07,979 --> 00:57:04,809
keeping the price down Smith absolutely

1203
00:57:10,469 --> 00:57:07,989
as low as we could go so that we can get

1204
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:10,479
some of these systems set up in other

1205
00:57:16,229 --> 00:57:13,450
hotspot areas ultimately our goal is to

1206
00:57:19,890 --> 00:57:16,239
have a whole web of these things around

1207
00:57:23,130 --> 00:57:19,900
the planet all gathering data and and

1208
00:57:24,509 --> 00:57:23,140
you know we're really you know hopefully

1209
00:57:28,529 --> 00:57:24,519
we're going to get to a point where the

1210
00:57:30,660 --> 00:57:28,539
data overwhelm with the mystery you're

1211
00:57:33,870 --> 00:57:30,670
right about that and there's a couple we

1212
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:33,880
all know about Joshua Tree right we know

1213
00:57:42,660 --> 00:57:38,799
about Issa T ranch skinwalker but there

1214
00:57:43,789 --> 00:57:42,670
are sedona right there are places that I

1215
00:57:47,489 --> 00:57:43,799
can't explain

1216
00:57:50,219 --> 00:57:47,499
Shasta that I visited where it is

1217
00:57:53,549 --> 00:57:50,229
absolutely out of control every single

1218
00:57:55,799 --> 00:57:53,559
night I don't here in Los Angeles

1219
00:57:59,279 --> 00:57:55,809
I've got great night vision I can go out

1220
00:58:01,289 --> 00:57:59,289
with all this light pollution here and I

1221
00:58:03,690 --> 00:58:01,299
can still see a couple of things per

1222
00:58:07,049 --> 00:58:03,700
night that I can't explain but there are

1223
00:58:09,059 --> 00:58:07,059
other places where it's off the hook and

1224
00:58:11,959 --> 00:58:09,069
there is something going on and your

1225
00:58:15,530 --> 00:58:11,969
solution is very very inexpensive I'm

1226
00:58:18,260 --> 00:58:15,540
just I'm shocked I'm shocked

1227
00:58:21,260 --> 00:58:18,270
let's take a break now can people still

1228
00:58:23,060 --> 00:58:21,270
donate by the way sure yeah we still

1229
00:58:24,860 --> 00:58:23,070
have our GoFundMe project up we're going

1230
00:58:27,770 --> 00:58:24,870
to go back in the spring and put the

1231
00:58:30,650 --> 00:58:27,780
other two cameras up and the multi of

1232
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:30,660
the multi instrumented packages the MSD

1233
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:34,130
a you the gravity meter the magnetometer

1234
00:58:39,470 --> 00:58:36,930
but take a break right here our guest

1235
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:39,480
tonight is Christopher O'Brien I do want

1236
00:58:41,150 --> 00:58:40,770
to remind everybody tomorrow night

1237
00:58:44,060 --> 00:58:41,160
Johnny

1238
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:44,070
Enoch is gonna be here and on Wednesday

1239
00:58:48,980 --> 00:58:47,250
nights that's right Patrick wood is back

1240
00:58:51,410 --> 00:58:48,990
I had am on coast to coast last night

1241
00:58:52,970 --> 00:58:51,420
bringing him back for fade to black on

1242
00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:52,980
Wednesday night Thursday night's gonna

1243
00:58:56,690 --> 00:58:55,200
be stay tonight open lines all night

1244
00:58:58,550 --> 00:58:56,700
long this is fade to black how many O's

1245
00:59:00,560 --> 00:58:58,560
Jimmy church tonight Christopher O'Brien

1246
00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:00,570
will pick it up while we're leaving off

1247
00:59:03,390 --> 00:59:01,920
right after this short break

1248
00:59:14,030 --> 00:59:03,400
stay with us

1249
00:59:20,330 --> 00:59:18,250
[Music]

1250
00:59:22,250 --> 00:59:20,340
this is fade to black

1251
00:59:25,940 --> 00:59:22,260
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

1252
00:59:27,730 --> 00:59:25,950
radio network and kgr a the global radio

1253
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1254
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1255
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1256
00:59:40,090 --> 00:59:37,560
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1257
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1258
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1259
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1260
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1261
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1262
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1263
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1264
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1266
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1267
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1274
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1278
01:00:47,980 --> 01:00:44,990
planet and you're listening to my good

1279
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:47,990
friend Jimmy Church fade to black

1280
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:50,570
on the GameChanger network and the kgr a

1281
01:00:57,250 --> 01:00:55,130
digital broadcast station this is Toby

1282
01:01:18,520 --> 01:00:57,260
Kebbell you're listening to Jimmy Church

1283
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:18,530
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1291
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1294
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1295
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free 877 8270 221 this is Jimmy Church

1296
01:01:51,550 --> 01:01:49,340
of fade to black and you can become an

1297
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official fade or not by just going to

1298
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:54,320
our membership section at Jimmy Church

1299
01:01:59,410 --> 01:01:58,010
radio.com hey it's grace can we talk

1300
01:02:02,710 --> 01:01:59,420
about something serious for a minute

1301
01:02:05,109 --> 01:02:02,720
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1302
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remember being a few years younger you

1303
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know your hair was thicker you didn't

1304
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have so many wrinkles that extra weight

1305
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wasn't haunting you and you just felt

1306
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better

1307
01:02:16,270 --> 01:02:13,670
well we can't turn back the clocks and

1308
01:02:18,580 --> 01:02:16,280
go back 10 or 15 years but you can start

1309
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feeling and looking 10 or 15 years

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1314
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1321
01:02:46,270 --> 01:02:43,670
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1322
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1323
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1324
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1325
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1326
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1327
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Serena right kayla from conscious life

1328
01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:01,970
Expo and you're listening to fade to

1329
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:04,310
black with Jimmy Church who holds the

1330
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:06,050
lucky pony record for the best

1331
01:03:13,330 --> 01:03:10,810
astrological chart since 1963 true story

1332
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this is Micah Hank's of the gray lien

1333
01:03:17,260 --> 01:03:14,930
report and you're listening to Jimmy

1334
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:17,270
church on fade to black across the globe

1335
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:19,370
on the GameChanger radio network and the

1336
01:03:35,730 --> 01:03:22,510
one and only kgr a radio the planet

1337
01:03:35,740 --> 01:03:41,930
[Music]

1338
01:03:47,779 --> 01:03:43,970
all right welcome back pay the black

1339
01:03:50,990 --> 01:03:47,789
coming Hills to me Church it's Monday

1340
01:03:54,319 --> 01:03:51,000
start of another week here we go tonight

1341
01:03:57,549 --> 01:03:54,329
Christopher O'Brien is here doing this

1342
01:03:58,809 --> 01:03:57,559
for a very very long time I'm a rookie

1343
01:04:01,490 --> 01:03:58,819
Rookie

1344
01:04:03,230 --> 01:04:01,500
Chris I'm a rookie you look you probably

1345
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:03,240
look at me go church man you've got so

1346
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:05,490
much to learn you need to come and hang

1347
01:04:10,190 --> 01:04:07,530
out with me but you've been doing this

1348
01:04:13,279 --> 01:04:10,200
for a long long time and I wanted to

1349
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:13,289
share I wanted to share this with you

1350
01:04:18,890 --> 01:04:16,559
we're up at ESET e now out of everything

1351
01:04:21,170 --> 01:04:18,900
I've got night vision and I got I do my

1352
01:04:24,020 --> 01:04:21,180
thing and you've done it we've all seen

1353
01:04:27,650 --> 01:04:24,030
stuff right but check this out this is

1354
01:04:29,329 --> 01:04:27,660
the one thing out of everything that

1355
01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:29,339
I've ever seen is is the absolute

1356
01:04:34,970 --> 01:04:32,579
nuttiest and thank goodness I had

1357
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:34,980
witnesses we're up at ESET e in the

1358
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:36,000
middle of the day it's like three

1359
01:04:42,890 --> 01:04:38,130
o'clock in the afternoon and I've got my

1360
01:04:45,770 --> 01:04:42,900
ginormous celestron binoculars on on a

1361
01:04:47,930 --> 01:04:45,780
tripod on a picnic table right and I'm

1362
01:04:51,230 --> 01:04:47,940
just sitting there looking at Mount

1363
01:04:53,089 --> 01:04:51,240
Adams you know zooming in and enjoying

1364
01:04:55,849 --> 01:04:53,099
nature I'm in the moment right and

1365
01:04:57,529 --> 01:04:55,859
sitting next to me is Steve Murillo

1366
01:04:59,180 --> 01:04:57,539
right and you know Steve and he's

1367
01:05:01,640 --> 01:04:59,190
sitting next to me and there's probably

1368
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:01,650
I don't know five or ten people sitting

1369
01:05:06,470 --> 01:05:03,690
to my left on the picnic tables and

1370
01:05:08,569 --> 01:05:06,480
there's people running around anyway so

1371
01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:08,579
I'm looking at the top of Mount Adams

1372
01:05:12,980 --> 01:05:11,520
and I'm looking at the rocks and looking

1373
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:12,990
at the trees looking at the birds and

1374
01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:14,880
just kind of getting things into focus

1375
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:16,710
and I'm doing this for about 10 or 15

1376
01:05:21,950 --> 01:05:19,770
minutes and at the top of the mountain

1377
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:21,960
which is a peak and you've seen Mount

1378
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:23,609
Adams enough you know how it is

1379
01:05:29,690 --> 01:05:26,910
and so I've got it in view and this is

1380
01:05:32,029 --> 01:05:29,700
what happens Chris on all that I loved

1381
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:32,039
at that moment

1382
01:05:40,309 --> 01:05:35,490
and I'm in the Zen state right calm

1383
01:05:44,809 --> 01:05:40,319
birds butterflies right at that instant

1384
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:44,819
from behind the peak of Mount Adams pops

1385
01:05:55,670 --> 01:05:50,930
up in in perfect focus imagine a black

1386
01:05:59,930 --> 01:05:55,680
beer can 200 feet tall 300

1387
01:06:03,680 --> 01:05:59,940
feet tall vertical black beer can with a

1388
01:06:07,460 --> 01:06:03,690
silver logo on it in the middle spinning

1389
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:07,470
and it's moving from left to right and

1390
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:10,050
it pops up behind the mountain and it's

1391
01:06:17,809 --> 01:06:13,130
it's the mountain is 14 miles away and

1392
01:06:20,359 --> 01:06:17,819
the peak is so this thing is huge

1393
01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:20,369
it's beyond description and it's

1394
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:24,809
perfectly in focus and and it's spinning

1395
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:28,050
slowly and you can see this round silver

1396
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:30,930
spot in the middle turning with it and

1397
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:37,440
and I freak I freaked I jump up and I'm

1398
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:40,290
yelling video video video shoot camera

1399
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:44,250
cam everybody I lose my mind and I and I

1400
01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:48,079
come back and as I come back to sit down

1401
01:06:53,150 --> 01:06:51,150
this is like 10 seconds later Steve

1402
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:53,160
Murillo goes I see it man and he's got

1403
01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:55,290
naked eye it's black with the silver

1404
01:06:59,540 --> 01:06:57,119
thing and it's spinning I said yeah I

1405
01:07:01,460 --> 01:06:59,550
jump back on my binoculars and I look

1406
01:07:05,930 --> 01:07:01,470
and there it is and it's moving and I'm

1407
01:07:09,410 --> 01:07:05,940
thinking at that moment that we have

1408
01:07:11,539 --> 01:07:09,420
clear blue sky going to the east for

1409
01:07:13,460 --> 01:07:11,549
miles right so we're gonna watch this

1410
01:07:16,819 --> 01:07:13,470
thing for a while we're gonna get video

1411
01:07:18,980 --> 01:07:16,829
in there and I pull off my binoculars

1412
01:07:23,329 --> 01:07:18,990
and look at it with my naked eye there

1413
01:07:26,270 --> 01:07:23,339
it is and I come back to the binoculars

1414
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:26,280
and I try to move it you know to catch

1415
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:29,910
back up to and it's gone and I go back

1416
01:07:32,150 --> 01:07:31,290
and I look with the naked eye it

1417
01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:32,160
disappeared

1418
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:37,950
it lasted for about 20 seconds 15

1419
01:07:42,859 --> 01:07:39,930
seconds I had enough time to jump up

1420
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:42,869
yell and scream come back sit down look

1421
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:45,690
talk boom get back up and it was gone

1422
01:07:53,450 --> 01:07:50,730
and daylight and now it just imagined

1423
01:07:55,910 --> 01:07:53,460
and which you are right now what I saw

1424
01:08:00,620 --> 01:07:55,920
as I described it to you in the middle

1425
01:08:02,450 --> 01:08:00,630
of the day now that I I can't I I you

1426
01:08:05,450 --> 01:08:02,460
know and it was like the holy grail of

1427
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:05,460
sightings didn't get it on video it

1428
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:08,650
happened too quick I reacted the way I

1429
01:08:12,269 --> 01:08:11,170
did and I didn't do the normal things I

1430
01:08:13,650 --> 01:08:12,279
should have grabbed my cell phone I

1431
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:13,660
should have videotaped I should have

1432
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:15,490
done everything myself

1433
01:08:23,689 --> 01:08:21,330
everybody's happened that you you're

1434
01:08:26,579 --> 01:08:23,699
something happens to the human mind

1435
01:08:28,349 --> 01:08:26,589
oftentimes people you know in the

1436
01:08:31,019 --> 01:08:28,359
interviewing people for so many years

1437
01:08:34,669 --> 01:08:31,029
and so many so many hundreds of

1438
01:08:36,599 --> 01:08:34,679
witnesses you get a very consistent

1439
01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:36,609
version that people are mesmerized

1440
01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:38,799
number wants them by what they see most

1441
01:08:42,780 --> 01:08:40,960
often people are so you don't want to

1442
01:08:44,610 --> 01:08:42,790
move or take their eyes off and for fear

1443
01:08:46,649 --> 01:08:44,620
the telephone they'll miss something and

1444
01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:46,659
so they forget to grab their camera they

1445
01:08:55,050 --> 01:08:52,020
forget to grab the video camera it just

1446
01:08:58,110 --> 01:08:55,060
because it's happened to me I know you

1447
01:09:01,079 --> 01:08:58,120
know but it's funny you should mention

1448
01:09:03,209 --> 01:09:01,089
that Adam that's the next place that we

1449
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:03,219
want to have a system and we're working

1450
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,250
with some folks of watching us watch and

1451
01:09:10,169 --> 01:09:08,319
stay move on to make that happen

1452
01:09:12,300 --> 01:09:10,179
you want to know something it was on the

1453
01:09:15,450 --> 01:09:12,310
other side of Mount Adams wasn't it on

1454
01:09:17,599 --> 01:09:15,460
the east side when it came up we want to

1455
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:17,609
get on the east side because right there

1456
01:09:23,999 --> 01:09:21,250
we you know north of the Hanford nuclear

1457
01:09:26,669 --> 01:09:24,009
site you know on the edge the northwest

1458
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:26,679
corner of the Yakima Indian Reservation

1459
01:09:31,979 --> 01:09:29,290
that is ground zero for the Mount Adams

1460
01:09:33,630 --> 01:09:31,989
area there's some amazing activity

1461
01:09:35,579 --> 01:09:33,640
that's been going on there for years and

1462
01:09:38,729 --> 01:09:35,589
it doesn't get reported outside of the

1463
01:09:41,309 --> 01:09:38,739
area the other side on Jain mom James

1464
01:09:43,380 --> 01:09:41,319
aside at the SETI side there's a lot of

1465
01:09:45,570 --> 01:09:43,390
stuff going on there's also conventional

1466
01:09:48,269 --> 01:09:45,580
stuff that's being misconstrued

1467
01:09:49,979 --> 01:09:48,279
especially at night it's the east side

1468
01:09:51,780 --> 01:09:49,989
of Mount Adams where all the real major

1469
01:09:56,250 --> 01:09:51,790
stuff's been going on all the way back

1470
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,260
into the original you slap you know

1471
01:09:59,610 --> 01:09:58,000
around the time of Kenneth Arnold yeah

1472
01:10:03,000 --> 01:09:59,620
that's right that's right and that was

1473
01:10:06,510 --> 01:10:03,010
all in this area you know and I I sit

1474
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:06,520
here and the the night vision stuff

1475
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:09,040
which I enjoy doing so much right and

1476
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:11,890
when you have something moving from east

1477
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:14,290
to west and you know it's in a satellite

1478
01:10:20,129 --> 01:10:16,960
trajectory and it's consistent okay I

1479
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:20,139
get that I get the ISS you know flyovers

1480
01:10:25,729 --> 01:10:20,489
and

1481
01:10:29,750 --> 01:10:25,739
you've got stuff that is not that high

1482
01:10:31,729 --> 01:10:29,760
in the atmosphere that may not be you

1483
01:10:34,970 --> 01:10:31,739
know 200 miles out when you know stuff

1484
01:10:37,490 --> 01:10:34,980
is lower but going in a Northwest

1485
01:10:42,740 --> 01:10:37,500
trajectory or north the south polar

1486
01:10:45,470 --> 01:10:42,750
orbit that isn't you know a normal

1487
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:45,480
satellite thing and then you have the

1488
01:10:51,860 --> 01:10:48,210
crazy movements that go on with that and

1489
01:10:53,930 --> 01:10:51,870
and some are fast some are slow you know

1490
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:53,940
I I know it's a satellite when it's a

1491
01:10:57,050 --> 01:10:55,530
satellite and I still like to see it

1492
01:10:58,490 --> 01:10:57,060
because when you pull the night vision

1493
01:11:02,810 --> 01:10:58,500
wind you can't see it with the naked eye

1494
01:11:05,900 --> 01:11:02,820
that's fun but up up at ESET II there I

1495
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:05,910
would say that half of the night and

1496
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:08,730
this goes on you know in in crust own -

1497
01:11:13,729 --> 01:11:11,010
and this goes on and in Joshua Tree in

1498
01:11:18,110 --> 01:11:13,739
Sedona half of the stuff is naked eye

1499
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:18,120
you know and that that is is a tough

1500
01:11:25,670 --> 01:11:20,610
thing to explain away you know and I I

1501
01:11:28,459 --> 01:11:25,680
just enjoy it yeah and having lived in

1502
01:11:30,530 --> 01:11:28,469
Sedona for 14 years and then conducted

1503
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:30,540
quite a number of UFO tours over the

1504
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:33,600
years I've seen some pretty amazing

1505
01:11:37,790 --> 01:11:35,730
stuff there as well and that's also a

1506
01:11:41,660 --> 01:11:37,800
very good spot for one of these one of

1507
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:41,670
these UFO dab systems of it now - Adam

1508
01:11:49,670 --> 01:11:47,360
our contract expert and one of our

1509
01:11:51,709 --> 01:11:49,680
astronomer kind of amateur astronomer

1510
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:51,719
he's got a number of a really really

1511
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:54,690
nice telescope Wayne Hollenbeck who he

1512
01:11:57,709 --> 01:11:55,650
was kind of one of the principal

1513
01:12:00,350 --> 01:11:57,719
principals of the you for that project

1514
01:12:03,410 --> 01:12:00,360
he was up with San Jamar she used to

1515
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:03,420
used to be with la MUFON and they

1516
01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:05,250
interrupt at the Trout Lake area and

1517
01:12:10,130 --> 01:12:08,760
they they videotaped deciding an object

1518
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:10,140
that couldn't have been it was less than

1519
01:12:13,790 --> 01:12:12,210
a half a mile away they were in a

1520
01:12:15,020 --> 01:12:13,800
clearing of trees and this thing went

1521
01:12:17,390 --> 01:12:15,030
all the way around them and they got

1522
01:12:19,310 --> 01:12:17,400
great footage of this it wasn't you know

1523
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:19,320
was a nocturnal it was a nighttime

1524
01:12:24,250 --> 01:12:21,210
sighting but there are a number of

1525
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:24,260
number of times during the during the

1526
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:27,120
filming which is about 30 or 40 seconds

1527
01:12:31,670 --> 01:12:29,489
if I remember you can actually see the

1528
01:12:34,469 --> 01:12:31,680
structure here and this thing did a full

1529
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:34,479
circle around them and Wayne is never

1530
01:12:39,959 --> 01:12:36,880
that's why it took a lot to convince

1531
01:12:41,449 --> 01:12:39,969
them to concentrate on this and we first

1532
01:12:43,770 --> 01:12:41,459
did not go up to Mount Adams

1533
01:12:46,279 --> 01:12:43,780
unfortunately we cannot find a good spot

1534
01:12:48,949 --> 01:12:46,289
up there with hide no but high enough

1535
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:48,959
bandwidth for the Internet but

1536
01:12:53,509 --> 01:12:51,280
fortunately in the valley we finally got

1537
01:12:57,509 --> 01:12:53,519
Internet in the areas that we need it

1538
01:12:59,580 --> 01:12:57,519
yeah and there was a not to dwell on

1539
01:13:01,169 --> 01:12:59,590
this because I want to get to a cattle

1540
01:13:04,949 --> 01:13:01,179
mutilations but you're right about that

1541
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:04,959
it's one thing to see a light or plasma

1542
01:13:10,649 --> 01:13:07,449
or an object it's another thing to see

1543
01:13:14,219 --> 01:13:10,659
structure and that had that happened to

1544
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:14,229
us one time and we were again this was

1545
01:13:24,180 --> 01:13:17,650
not this is two years ago up in he said

1546
01:13:26,819 --> 01:13:24,190
he but man it was a flying saucer and I

1547
01:13:28,830 --> 01:13:26,829
couldn't believe it it was low it was

1548
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:28,840
probably it was that night but it was

1549
01:13:34,859 --> 01:13:32,320
probably if I was to guess I would say a

1550
01:13:38,430 --> 01:13:34,869
mile you know five thousand feet maybe a

1551
01:13:40,620 --> 01:13:38,440
little higher but it was it was it was a

1552
01:13:42,930 --> 01:13:40,630
flying saucer it was glowing but you

1553
01:13:45,540 --> 01:13:42,940
could see the shape you know you saw it

1554
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:45,550
when it approached it was an oval and

1555
01:13:51,149 --> 01:13:47,650
when it flew overhead it was round as it

1556
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:51,159
flew away it was flat and it changed

1557
01:13:56,250 --> 01:13:53,199
colors a couple of times but it was it

1558
01:14:03,959 --> 01:13:56,260
was big it was crazy that was that was

1559
01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:03,969
really really fun and that was I can't

1560
01:14:08,459 --> 01:14:05,920
explain it I can't explain it well which

1561
01:14:13,049 --> 01:14:08,469
goes to I want to jump into a cattle

1562
01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:13,059
mutilations a little bit here the the

1563
01:14:15,989 --> 01:14:14,590
investigations that you have done over

1564
01:14:18,029 --> 01:14:15,999
the years you know when we talk about

1565
01:14:19,799 --> 01:14:18,039
cattle mutilations everybody wants to

1566
01:14:21,419 --> 01:14:19,809
think about Linda Moulton Howe and

1567
01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:21,429
that's fine because she's done you know

1568
01:14:25,949 --> 01:14:23,440
she's kept her finger on this for a very

1569
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:25,959
very long time and has brought the

1570
01:14:33,239 --> 01:14:28,090
awareness but you've been doing it too

1571
01:14:36,540 --> 01:14:33,249
as well and what are that as you as here

1572
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:36,550
we are in 2018 going into 2019 as you

1573
01:14:44,330 --> 01:14:40,690
look back what what conclusions have you

1574
01:14:47,549 --> 01:14:44,340
come to now what what who is doing this

1575
01:14:48,420 --> 01:14:47,559
well it's really complicated that's why

1576
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:48,430
when I

1577
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:50,290
wrote stalking a herd which is really

1578
01:14:55,260 --> 01:14:53,040
the only complete objective

1579
01:14:57,540 --> 01:14:55,270
comprehensive overview and case history

1580
01:15:00,480 --> 01:14:57,550
of the cattle mutilation phenomenon and

1581
01:15:02,820 --> 01:15:00,490
I really only scratched the surface I

1582
01:15:04,350 --> 01:15:02,830
mentioned in this is probably about a

1583
01:15:06,660 --> 01:15:04,360
thousand cases in there and which

1584
01:15:09,210 --> 01:15:06,670
represent about one-tenth of the number

1585
01:15:12,750 --> 01:15:09,220
of cases that that ever occurred just in

1586
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:12,760
North America right now there's a whole

1587
01:15:15,330 --> 01:15:14,770
bunch of cases going on down in South

1588
01:15:18,420 --> 01:15:15,340
America

1589
01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:18,430
that were me and my follow-up book was

1590
01:15:23,070 --> 01:15:20,400
going to be talking about South America

1591
01:15:27,570 --> 01:15:23,080
it's that's where the center of this

1592
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:27,580
mystery has moved since about 2002 most

1593
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:29,290
of the cattle mutilation cases have been

1594
01:15:36,380 --> 01:15:32,080
occurring up south of the equator and in

1595
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:36,390
Australia and in in Argentina or Brazil

1596
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:41,050
Uruguay even as far south as Patagonia I

1597
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:44,290
was talking with my mentor and we were

1598
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:46,810
talking about this book that came out

1599
01:15:53,070 --> 01:15:49,930
Ben Mezrich and Chuck Zukowski spoke to

1600
01:15:54,300 --> 01:15:53,080
the 37th parallel and we're thinking to

1601
01:15:55,950 --> 01:15:54,310
ourselves yeah but you could draw a

1602
01:15:58,110 --> 01:15:55,960
straight line anywhere across North

1603
01:16:01,440 --> 01:15:58,120
America and there's going to be you know

1604
01:16:04,170 --> 01:16:01,450
tons of interesting stuff there and I

1605
01:16:07,290 --> 01:16:04,180
said yeah I was saying to my friend

1606
01:16:10,260 --> 01:16:07,300
David I said you know what all the cases

1607
01:16:11,850 --> 01:16:10,270
down in Patagonia and he goes cases and

1608
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:11,860
Pedigo yeah I've never heard of any down

1609
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:14,320
there of you and I said no you said well

1610
01:16:18,180 --> 01:16:15,760
why did you say that and I said was as

1611
01:16:21,090 --> 01:16:18,190
far away as I could think of right the

1612
01:16:22,740 --> 01:16:21,100
37th parallel and wouldn't you know it a

1613
01:16:30,810 --> 01:16:22,750
week later there was a whole outbreak of

1614
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:30,820
cases in Patagonia well so what

1615
01:16:35,670 --> 01:16:33,730
who is it us is it them is it a

1616
01:16:38,460 --> 01:16:35,680
combination of both well what you're

1617
01:16:40,410 --> 01:16:38,470
going on yes a combination of both I

1618
01:16:42,330 --> 01:16:40,420
think it's a very core of the mystery

1619
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:42,340
you have something I strange there's

1620
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:45,130
something either the other dimensional

1621
01:16:48,540 --> 01:16:46,210
off-planet

1622
01:16:51,330 --> 01:16:48,550
something paranormal something

1623
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:51,340
preternatural there is something at the

1624
01:16:56,130 --> 01:16:53,050
core of this it's high strains that

1625
01:16:58,350 --> 01:16:56,140
can't be you just can't be explained by

1626
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:58,360
modern science I'm absolutely convinced

1627
01:17:02,189 --> 01:17:01,360
of it out of the 200 or so cases that I

1628
01:17:05,580 --> 01:17:02,199
personally

1629
01:17:09,209 --> 01:17:05,590
investigated 40 of them I felt were done

1630
01:17:10,379 --> 01:17:09,219
were definitely mysterious and and done

1631
01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:10,389
with intelligence

1632
01:17:15,149 --> 01:17:12,880
there weren't scavengers the other 160

1633
01:17:17,729 --> 01:17:15,159
were probably scavenging

1634
01:17:21,209 --> 01:17:17,739
it's amazing what insects can do it's

1635
01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:21,219
amazing what birds can do but you know

1636
01:17:26,459 --> 01:17:24,550
maggot blooms can polish you know

1637
01:17:30,290 --> 01:17:26,469
incisional areas where they've torn the

1638
01:17:34,890 --> 01:17:30,300
flesh yet it's it's really complicated

1639
01:17:36,930 --> 01:17:34,900
but I think out of those 100 200 cases

1640
01:17:39,180 --> 01:17:36,940
40 of them were definitely done with

1641
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:39,190
intelligence the majority of them were

1642
01:17:44,419 --> 01:17:41,050
done with a sharp cutting implement like

1643
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:44,429
a scalpel and out of those eight were

1644
01:17:51,989 --> 01:17:48,729
really spooky 8 were you just couldn't

1645
01:17:54,089 --> 01:17:51,999
explain them so there is I think at the

1646
01:17:57,870 --> 01:17:54,099
core they're pretty rare but there are

1647
01:18:01,229 --> 01:17:57,880
real high strange cases the rest of them

1648
01:18:03,719 --> 01:18:01,239
let's say the other 32 out of the 40

1649
01:18:07,109 --> 01:18:03,729
we're done by I think human agents are

1650
01:18:09,239 --> 01:18:07,119
very skillful but you know when you look

1651
01:18:12,330 --> 01:18:09,249
at the rationale for doing these cases

1652
01:18:15,540 --> 01:18:12,340
the only thing that makes sense to you

1653
01:18:18,449 --> 01:18:15,550
know I think the objective side of the

1654
01:18:20,339 --> 01:18:18,459
investigating community is that we

1655
01:18:23,009 --> 01:18:20,349
receive some sort of environmental

1656
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:23,019
monitoring there they're using cows as

1657
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:27,360
test subjects to look at what's going on

1658
01:18:34,199 --> 01:18:30,610
in the residual elements in the

1659
01:18:36,270 --> 01:18:34,209
environment and we should expect that I

1660
01:18:39,299 --> 01:18:36,280
want to jump in I'm looking at the clock

1661
01:18:42,419 --> 01:18:39,309
here and we should expect that but the

1662
01:18:45,330 --> 01:18:42,429
eight cases that you just said were high

1663
01:18:47,759 --> 01:18:45,340
strangeness let's talk about those for a

1664
01:18:50,969 --> 01:18:47,769
second were these eight cases that you

1665
01:18:53,729 --> 01:18:50,979
investigated personally and you saw okay

1666
01:18:57,629 --> 01:18:53,739
now when you say what makes it high

1667
01:19:01,049 --> 01:18:57,639
strangeness for you well the one the

1668
01:19:04,850 --> 01:19:01,059
granddaddy is that I like to describe as

1669
01:19:09,509 --> 01:19:04,860
the del Norte that happened in May of 97

1670
01:19:12,089 --> 01:19:09,519
this was I mean the calf was was only a

1671
01:19:16,020 --> 01:19:12,099
couple months old not even six weeks old

1672
01:19:18,029 --> 01:19:16,030
it had been targeted in a field

1673
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:18,039
that had just gotten five inches of

1674
01:19:23,069 --> 01:19:20,530
fresh snow the front leg was gone

1675
01:19:28,100 --> 01:19:23,079
missing the ribcage was gone the lungs

1676
01:19:30,930 --> 01:19:28,110
were gone the the intestines the stomach

1677
01:19:33,930 --> 01:19:30,940
you know the needle or the lower organs

1678
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:33,940
were gone except for the liver and heart

1679
01:19:39,169 --> 01:19:37,210
which were expertly excised and then

1680
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:39,179
laid very carefully in the body cavity

1681
01:19:44,339 --> 01:19:42,010
there was one drop of blood on the rear

1682
01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:44,349
left hook the animal was missing his

1683
01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:46,510
brain with no break break into the

1684
01:19:52,140 --> 01:19:49,510
cranium the brain case was dry and there

1685
01:19:55,260 --> 01:19:52,150
was not one piece of dura the film that

1686
01:19:57,930 --> 01:19:55,270
goes around the the the the brain the

1687
01:19:58,830 --> 01:19:57,940
brain inside the brain case the animal

1688
01:20:04,049 --> 01:19:58,840
wouldn't rot

1689
01:20:06,660 --> 01:20:04,059
it had a kind of a strange very faint

1690
01:20:09,209 --> 01:20:06,670
but but the molecules that were there

1691
01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:09,219
were very strong a faint kind of

1692
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:16,030
medicinal incense perfumey but but but

1693
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:19,090
kind of like some sort of disinfectant

1694
01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:23,770
smell and strange lights were reported

1695
01:20:28,919 --> 01:20:26,289
by two separate witnesses that night to

1696
01:20:32,669 --> 01:20:28,929
the sheriff's office unbeknownst to each

1697
01:20:34,770 --> 01:20:32,679
other and like I said whether the the

1698
01:20:36,810 --> 01:20:34,780
rancher dragged it into his garage which

1699
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:36,820
was heated and I came back two weeks

1700
01:20:43,649 --> 01:20:41,170
later ten days later I think and the

1701
01:20:46,890 --> 01:20:43,659
animal was in the exact condition

1702
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:46,900
it did not rot it had [\h__\h] and

1703
01:20:55,020 --> 01:20:51,010
necrosis he explained that and and in

1704
01:20:57,060 --> 01:20:55,030
the the spine had been jerked out in an

1705
01:20:59,129 --> 01:20:57,070
upwards manner we could tell by the way

1706
01:21:03,089 --> 01:20:59,139
the last remaining just down at the hip

1707
01:21:05,010 --> 01:21:03,099
and just the disk below the skull it was

1708
01:21:08,250 --> 01:21:05,020
broken in an upwards manner which was

1709
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:08,260
impossible because the hide was there so

1710
01:21:14,419 --> 01:21:12,010
imperfect perfect incisions I mean long

1711
01:21:17,970 --> 01:21:14,429
stretches of cut hair follicles

1712
01:21:20,399 --> 01:21:17,980
it was very spooky that's the only one

1713
01:21:22,529 --> 01:21:20,409
that really kind of made me keep the

1714
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:22,539
light on little extra long at night well

1715
01:21:27,709 --> 01:21:26,050
you know and hearing you inferred nobody

1716
01:21:32,930 --> 01:21:27,719
that's met you

1717
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:32,940
you you're not you're not a small guy

1718
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:36,810
you're not you you're you're a manly man

1719
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:39,570
right if you know what I've tried to

1720
01:21:45,109 --> 01:21:43,440
suck you take it and that's what I'm

1721
01:21:48,770 --> 01:21:45,119
trying that's where I'm going

1722
01:21:54,350 --> 01:21:48,780
and so I don't design the t-shirt

1723
01:21:56,450 --> 01:21:54,360
factory yes yes yes yes yes so what that

1724
01:21:58,129 --> 01:21:56,460
that affected you and I'm hearing you

1725
01:22:02,060 --> 01:21:58,139
describe this right now

1726
01:22:03,709 --> 01:22:02,070
and I can't imagine I have never seen

1727
01:22:06,010 --> 01:22:03,719
anything like that you know and I've

1728
01:22:08,540 --> 01:22:06,020
asked Linda about this too that

1729
01:22:12,410 --> 01:22:08,550
emotionally you have to be affected when

1730
01:22:13,939 --> 01:22:12,420
you see this kind of stuff yeah yeah and

1731
01:22:15,979 --> 01:22:13,949
that's one of the reasons why I moved

1732
01:22:17,950 --> 01:22:15,989
from Colorado to Arizona because there

1733
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:17,960
are very very few cases reported this

1734
01:22:26,209 --> 01:22:20,610
not my least favorite thing to do I

1735
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:26,219
really I know man it is it is the

1736
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:29,250
hardest thing is trying to be there for

1737
01:22:33,410 --> 01:22:31,650
the rancher look in his family I mean

1738
01:22:34,970 --> 01:22:33,420
you think it's freaky for someone coming

1739
01:22:36,290 --> 01:22:34,980
from the outside trying to you know

1740
01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:36,300
investigate a case

1741
01:22:40,490 --> 01:22:38,880
I'm fed up it's your cow and you're

1742
01:22:42,530 --> 01:22:40,500
worried about you know if they could do

1743
01:22:45,229 --> 01:22:42,540
this to my cow and my dog didn't even

1744
01:22:47,330 --> 01:22:45,239
bark and my dogs bark at everything

1745
01:22:49,129 --> 01:22:47,340
Thanks then how the hell am I going to

1746
01:22:51,050 --> 01:22:49,139
protect my family against something like

1747
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:51,060
this I had a case where it was left on

1748
01:22:53,660 --> 01:22:52,650
their own this literally right in this

1749
01:22:55,729 --> 01:22:53,670
front door

1750
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:55,739
I had another case and do you want to

1751
01:23:01,550 --> 01:22:59,520
hear it freaky one mmm nickname for

1752
01:23:04,129 --> 01:23:01,560
these things we call him mute for short

1753
01:23:08,359 --> 01:23:04,139
you know me like it's my favorite button

1754
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:08,369
on the on the TV is a mute button go

1755
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:10,650
check it out I got a call from an

1756
01:23:13,879 --> 01:23:12,239
investigator and she's like you got to

1757
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:13,889
talk to this guy

1758
01:23:21,410 --> 01:23:18,210
his name is John mute a mute easy I

1759
01:23:23,180 --> 01:23:21,420
swear to God okay and this was up in the

1760
01:23:25,459 --> 01:23:23,190
mood the moreno valley' up behind house

1761
01:23:27,859 --> 01:23:25,469
and so i went all the way down there's

1762
01:23:30,890 --> 01:23:27,869
less whoo - that was - plus our drive

1763
01:23:32,570 --> 01:23:30,900
and he's sitting there and he's he's

1764
01:23:34,970 --> 01:23:32,580
telling me I was sitting right here on

1765
01:23:37,580 --> 01:23:34,980
the porch and he had this beautiful

1766
01:23:40,609 --> 01:23:37,590
ranch house that was sad about 150 feet

1767
01:23:42,409 --> 01:23:40,619
up above his pastures which was down the

1768
01:23:44,060 --> 01:23:42,419
off into the distance you know it's four

1769
01:23:46,069 --> 01:23:44,070
or five hundred acres beautiful

1770
01:23:47,389 --> 01:23:46,079
beautiful place and you can see right

1771
01:23:49,219 --> 01:23:47,399
down there about an eighth of a mile

1772
01:23:51,379 --> 01:23:49,229
away you know four or five hundred yards

1773
01:23:54,469 --> 01:23:51,389
away we're always just cows down there

1774
01:23:56,540 --> 01:23:54,479
he goes yeah sit here having a beer just

1775
01:23:57,979 --> 01:23:56,550
shooting the [\h__\h] and we noticed all the

1776
01:24:00,409 --> 01:23:57,989
cows and all of a sudden they'd all

1777
01:24:03,020 --> 01:24:00,419
gathered around I'm in a little tight

1778
01:24:04,549 --> 01:24:03,030
group right down there and they started

1779
01:24:06,259 --> 01:24:04,559
need to tell they were agitator we could

1780
01:24:10,419 --> 01:24:06,269
hear a moon and they were moving around

1781
01:24:12,770 --> 01:24:10,429
kind of in a circle and then when they

1782
01:24:14,569 --> 01:24:12,780
you know I started to go down and they

1783
01:24:17,089 --> 01:24:14,579
see what was going on he says they all

1784
01:24:19,399 --> 01:24:17,099
started to move away and spread back out

1785
01:24:22,279 --> 01:24:19,409
I know this is little calf that was

1786
01:24:24,409 --> 01:24:22,289
sitting there on the ground and left

1787
01:24:25,790 --> 01:24:24,419
less than a year old and it was laying

1788
01:24:27,739 --> 01:24:25,800
on the ground it hadn't been there

1789
01:24:30,799 --> 01:24:27,749
before so I went down there and the damn

1790
01:24:32,959 --> 01:24:30,809
thing was mutilated and I said well

1791
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:32,969
steel so wasn't there before it goes

1792
01:24:36,409 --> 01:24:33,449
nope

1793
01:24:39,889 --> 01:24:36,419
and I said but the cows all got in there

1794
01:24:42,020 --> 01:24:39,899
and then when they split up the calf was

1795
01:24:44,270 --> 01:24:42,030
there and it was me waited he said yep I

1796
01:24:45,859 --> 01:24:44,280
think I figured it out if the cows thing

1797
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:45,869
we should just let him work it out among

1798
01:24:58,669 --> 01:24:48,050
themselves

1799
01:25:00,529 --> 01:24:58,679
did you see that did you see the cat one

1800
01:25:02,330 --> 01:25:00,539
of the funniest things I was

1801
01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:02,340
flabbergasted

1802
01:25:07,310 --> 01:25:05,760
it's like yep it's our thing we should

1803
01:25:09,009 --> 01:25:07,320
just let them all work amongst

1804
01:25:14,750 --> 01:25:09,019
themselves

1805
01:25:18,109 --> 01:25:14,760
Wow Wow his name is John mute a mute

1806
01:25:25,909 --> 01:25:18,119
easy look him up Moreno Valley there are

1807
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:25,919
the eagle's nest unbelievable I love

1808
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:29,010
that that's such a great story huh did

1809
01:25:34,939 --> 01:25:33,570
you see did you see the calf know it I

1810
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:34,949
didn't find out about it for a couple

1811
01:25:38,659 --> 01:25:37,110
few days and then I called him up and I

1812
01:25:41,209 --> 01:25:38,669
I made the trip all the way down because

1813
01:25:43,639 --> 01:25:41,219
there have been a bunch of cases all to

1814
01:25:46,969 --> 01:25:43,649
use of Moreno Valley one ranch or Eli

1815
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:46,979
Horne Nick he lost 49 head 50 head in

1816
01:25:53,930 --> 01:25:52,050
two years it's the when when there are

1817
01:25:56,630 --> 01:25:53,940
reported lights and

1818
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,640
I find that interesting because the

1819
01:26:02,170 --> 01:25:58,320
lights could come from two things it

1820
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:02,180
could be et but it also could be

1821
01:26:07,729 --> 01:26:04,410
helicopters you know coming in and

1822
01:26:09,500 --> 01:26:07,739
dropping these these animals off or

1823
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:09,510
picking them up too as well how many

1824
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:13,199
times you think that is the case well we

1825
01:26:19,070 --> 01:26:16,770
have around 400 mystery helicopter

1826
01:26:21,890 --> 01:26:19,080
sightings that have been documented in

1827
01:26:25,670 --> 01:26:21,900
and around mutilation cases personally

1828
01:26:29,030 --> 01:26:25,680
I've got probably 30 30 cases that have

1829
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:29,040
helicopters directly involved and those

1830
01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:31,050
is for strange lights I've got about

1831
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:34,110
maybe a third that number maybe 10 or 12

1832
01:26:38,930 --> 01:26:37,050
where there's pretty good you know I

1833
01:26:41,209 --> 01:26:38,940
think pretty good circumstantial

1834
01:26:43,700 --> 01:26:41,219
evidence that's something I strange is

1835
01:26:46,070 --> 01:26:43,710
flying around in terms of lighting

1836
01:26:49,010 --> 01:26:46,080
patterns that sort of thing

1837
01:26:50,689 --> 01:26:49,020
but most of the aerial activity yeah

1838
01:26:53,540 --> 01:26:50,699
I've even had black helicopters show up

1839
01:26:56,030 --> 01:26:53,550
when I was a black helicopters show up

1840
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:56,040
when I was investigating the case the

1841
01:27:01,340 --> 01:26:58,170
sheriff of Rio Grande County had that

1842
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:01,350
happen a couple of times as well so if

1843
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:04,530
the helicopters in north america are

1844
01:27:10,430 --> 01:27:08,489
reported more than UFO type lighting or

1845
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:10,440
craft activity whereas in south america

1846
01:27:16,250 --> 01:27:13,050
the opposite it's more claims of UFO

1847
01:27:19,189 --> 01:27:16,260
activity and less claims in helicopters

1848
01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:19,199
the exact opposite from down there to up

1849
01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:22,560
now we've got a hit to or break but I

1850
01:27:27,380 --> 01:27:24,030
can ask you this quickly

1851
01:27:31,729 --> 01:27:27,390
why if if the government is doing

1852
01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:31,739
testing on cattle which again I can

1853
01:27:36,740 --> 01:27:33,510
understand why they would do that but

1854
01:27:38,780 --> 01:27:36,750
why would they just admit to it so we

1855
01:27:42,020 --> 01:27:38,790
can remove that part of the mystery I

1856
01:27:44,060 --> 01:27:42,030
mean he's covered the beef industry one

1857
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:44,070
of the largest most powerful lobbies in

1858
01:27:48,380 --> 01:27:46,410
this country that you never never hear

1859
01:27:51,350 --> 01:27:48,390
about and the reason why they're not

1860
01:27:53,930 --> 01:27:51,360
doing it is because what they're testing

1861
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:53,940
for is probably mad cow disease which is

1862
01:28:01,580 --> 01:27:57,810
100% fatal in humans and they don't want

1863
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:01,590
to you know the largest income producing

1864
01:28:05,300 --> 01:28:03,690
segment of Agriculture is the beef

1865
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industry and they don't want to rock

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01:28:10,190 --> 01:28:07,710
that boat you know

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01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:10,200
I mean look what happened to Oprah she

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01:28:15,020 --> 01:28:12,690
had the Howard Lyman the mad cowboy

1869
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:15,030
about mad cow disease and she blurted it

1870
01:28:18,740 --> 01:28:16,560
out during the show I'm never gonna eat

1871
01:28:22,250 --> 01:28:18,750
another hamburger again next day she has

1872
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:22,260
a two billion dollar lawsuit right yep

1873
01:28:29,390 --> 01:28:26,090
yep yep and probably ate a Big Mac live

1874
01:28:32,690 --> 01:28:29,400
by the way Jimmy yes love me yes so do i

1875
01:28:34,790 --> 01:28:32,700
but but I don't I don't need to

1876
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:34,800
industrialize beef protein I know where

1877
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:37,050
my beef comes from and I will not eat

1878
01:28:42,350 --> 01:28:40,080
fast food beef one McDonald's hamburger

1879
01:28:44,930 --> 01:28:42,360
Burger King could have up to a thousand

1880
01:28:47,090 --> 01:28:44,940
animals in it let's take a break right

1881
01:28:49,340 --> 01:28:47,100
here our guest tonight is christopher

1882
01:28:51,470 --> 01:28:49,350
o'brien we come back i want to talk

1883
01:28:55,220 --> 01:28:51,480
about skinwalker ranch we're gonna get

1884
01:28:58,490 --> 01:28:55,230
into that and of course it is in the

1885
01:28:59,420 --> 01:28:58,500
news and has been over the last year so

1886
01:29:01,370 --> 01:28:59,430
we'll discuss that

1887
01:29:03,260 --> 01:29:01,380
we'll take things a little bit further

1888
01:29:06,110 --> 01:29:03,270
Christopher Ryan this is fade to black

1889
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:06,120
I'm Remy Church right back after this

1890
01:29:07,730 --> 01:29:06,570
short break

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stay with us

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way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1893
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you're listening to fade to black always

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on the edge of the hottest alternative

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talk jimmy church with fade to black

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earthquakes wildfires this year we've

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experienced more than our fair share

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this is Jimmy Church of fade to black

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and last month I decided to make sure my

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family does not have to worry about food

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of duress all aluminum products have a

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that you've protected your family not

1913
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only have I tasted and tested I own it

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now you can too just click on the new

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and use the promo code Jimmy when you

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order in addition to a discount we'll

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send you an autograph fade to black

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t-shirt seriously gobekli tepe do you

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want to be an official fade or not of

1921
01:30:50,930 --> 01:30:49,260
course you do

1922
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this is Jimmy Church of fade to black

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1938
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1939
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1940
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are listening to fade to black

1965
01:32:49,890 --> 01:32:43,900
with Jimmy Church on the game changing

1966
01:32:53,339 --> 01:32:49,900
Network you're listening to Jimmy Church

1967
01:32:56,339 --> 01:32:53,349
this is a revolution the revolution will

1968
01:33:01,990 --> 01:32:56,349
not be televised the revolution is on

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01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:39,890
[Music]

1970
01:33:44,490 --> 01:33:42,450
all right welcome back baby black coming

1971
01:33:46,230 --> 01:33:44,500
to me Church Monday night our Jes

1972
01:33:47,220 --> 01:33:46,240
tonight's Christopher O'Brien tomorrow

1973
01:33:50,070 --> 01:33:47,230
night Johnny

1974
01:33:51,630 --> 01:33:50,080
Enoch is here really looking forward to

1975
01:33:54,810 --> 01:33:51,640
that conversation we're gonna talk about

1976
01:33:56,670 --> 01:33:54,820
the new area 51 and some ancient history

1977
01:34:00,240 --> 01:33:56,680
too as well Wednesday night Patrick wood

1978
01:34:01,710 --> 01:34:00,250
and Tanakh recei 2.0

1979
01:34:04,770 --> 01:34:01,720
tonight it's Christopher O'Brien uh

1980
01:34:10,410 --> 01:34:04,780
Chris you have how long did you host the

1981
01:34:13,020 --> 01:34:10,420
para cast or co-host years seven eight

1982
01:34:17,460 --> 01:34:13,030
years and over those seven or eight

1983
01:34:20,570 --> 01:34:17,470
years how how did things change for you

1984
01:34:24,420 --> 01:34:20,580
with ufology and in the crypto world

1985
01:34:26,580 --> 01:34:24,430
because I see things kind of coming back

1986
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:26,590
around this last couple of years too as

1987
01:34:31,650 --> 01:34:28,810
well but over that seven eight years did

1988
01:34:36,300 --> 01:34:31,660
it change for you what was going on out

1989
01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:36,310
there well I think it did I I think we

1990
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:40,480
went from having more baby boomers more

1991
01:34:45,870 --> 01:34:44,410
older people involved it seemed to be

1992
01:34:47,370 --> 01:34:45,880
getting older and older and older in

1993
01:34:49,350 --> 01:34:47,380
terms of the average age of people

1994
01:34:51,090 --> 01:34:49,360
interested in the subjects and now I'm

1995
01:34:53,730 --> 01:34:51,100
seeing a lot more young young people

1996
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:53,740
getting involved Millennials

1997
01:34:59,610 --> 01:34:56,110
you know folks that are you know in

1998
01:35:00,960 --> 01:34:59,620
their 20s and even teens and I think

1999
01:35:04,170 --> 01:35:00,970
that that's really refreshing to see

2000
01:35:07,590 --> 01:35:04,180
because I really see that the baby

2001
01:35:10,710 --> 01:35:07,600
boomer paradigm is is being questioned

2002
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:10,720
by the by the younger folks that are

2003
01:35:17,490 --> 01:35:14,610
getting involved and I I do see that

2004
01:35:20,810 --> 01:35:17,500
unfortunately the the interesting shows

2005
01:35:24,780 --> 01:35:20,820
like ancient aliens and in kind of

2006
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:24,790
approximations of of history and and in

2007
01:35:30,900 --> 01:35:29,050
some of the crypto shows and for Miss

2008
01:35:32,700 --> 01:35:30,910
educating people on misinforming people

2009
01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:32,710
a bit and I think people are getting a

2010
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:36,490
little bit of a warped view of what

2011
01:35:40,190 --> 01:35:38,650
these subjects really are they're

2012
01:35:44,490 --> 01:35:40,200
getting more of a Hollywood eyes

2013
01:35:46,470 --> 01:35:44,500
approximation version you know when I

2014
01:35:48,990 --> 01:35:46,480
got started in this field there was no

2015
01:35:51,780 --> 01:35:49,000
internet I had to go to newspaper you

2016
01:35:52,990 --> 01:35:51,790
know more than our cards and libraries

2017
01:35:56,020 --> 01:35:53,000
and and

2018
01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:56,030
in write letters to people and spend a

2019
01:36:00,760 --> 01:35:58,010
lot of money on the phone when long

2020
01:36:03,670 --> 01:36:00,770
distance was expensive and and you

2021
01:36:05,860 --> 01:36:03,680
really had to earn it back then with the

2022
01:36:08,380 --> 01:36:05,870
internet now there's a lot of people

2023
01:36:13,270 --> 01:36:08,390
that are taking shortcuts gleaming they

2024
01:36:15,490 --> 01:36:13,280
don't have well honed BS meters people

2025
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:15,500
are I think a little bit more easily

2026
01:36:22,959 --> 01:36:19,850
fooled by you know by dad I consider

2027
01:36:24,939 --> 01:36:22,969
them bad CGI hoaxes on YouTube and stuff

2028
01:36:29,950 --> 01:36:24,949
and uh you know there's not a plethora

2029
01:36:31,959 --> 01:36:29,960
of these these hoaxes well websites that

2030
01:36:34,390 --> 01:36:31,969
are you know you may get one good

2031
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:34,400
sighting out of a thousand there I mean

2032
01:36:38,500 --> 01:36:36,110
500 or something

2033
01:36:40,930 --> 01:36:38,510
there may be something good but most of

2034
01:36:44,350 --> 01:36:40,940
it is just the same old you know 50

2035
01:36:46,660 --> 01:36:44,360
style approximation of what people think

2036
01:36:48,729 --> 01:36:46,670
UFOs look like and it's so easy for

2037
01:36:51,090 --> 01:36:48,739
someone such as myself who's got quite a

2038
01:36:53,410 --> 01:36:51,100
bit of training in this area to

2039
01:36:56,220 --> 01:36:53,420
instantly be able to look at something

2040
01:36:59,320 --> 01:36:56,230
and tell you exactly how it was done

2041
01:37:01,510 --> 01:36:59,330
very very rarely do I have to send it

2042
01:37:03,550 --> 01:37:01,520
upstairs to someone like a race dancer

2043
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:03,560
who's who's taught me everything I know

2044
01:37:10,090 --> 01:37:07,520
about analysis and because it could

2045
01:37:12,430 --> 01:37:10,100
possibly fool me I mean there's the

2046
01:37:13,870 --> 01:37:12,440
level of technology is just getting

2047
01:37:15,220 --> 01:37:13,880
better and better and better so we're

2048
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:15,230
just gonna have a harder and harder time

2049
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:18,770
with this problem and I think people are

2050
01:37:23,140 --> 01:37:20,690
getting though all I would I version of

2051
01:37:24,790 --> 01:37:23,150
things in the last let's say three or

2052
01:37:31,180 --> 01:37:24,800
four years really it started getting

2053
01:37:33,459 --> 01:37:31,190
worse Moore's I don't understand okay I

2054
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:33,469
don't normally go here on this program

2055
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:36,410
but I'm gonna go here right now when and

2056
01:37:42,630 --> 01:37:39,250
I'm gonna talk about something specific

2057
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:42,640
there was a video that was sent to me of

2058
01:37:48,540 --> 01:37:45,170
it was like Jimmy check this out man

2059
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:48,550
it's the tr-3b on an aircraft carrier

2060
01:37:54,629 --> 01:37:52,010
right like okay wait wait a minute man

2061
01:38:00,870 --> 01:37:58,439
as reticent as my clique was I did click

2062
01:38:04,169 --> 01:38:00,880
and watch it alright and I'm looking at

2063
01:38:07,529 --> 01:38:04,179
the video and I'm like okay seriously

2064
01:38:11,069 --> 01:38:07,539
right and then I'm looking at the

2065
01:38:14,790 --> 01:38:11,079
comments only crap it's proof oh man oh

2066
01:38:16,679 --> 01:38:14,800
man boys wait are you guys looking at

2067
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:16,689
the same thing that I'm looking at here

2068
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:20,050
this is the fakie is fake it's not even

2069
01:38:25,169 --> 01:38:22,449
good quality right and if you look

2070
01:38:28,679 --> 01:38:25,179
really close you can see the shadows are

2071
01:38:31,649 --> 01:38:28,689
wrong the shadows are there in the wrong

2072
01:38:34,949 --> 01:38:31,659
direction and that's all you have to do

2073
01:38:37,889 --> 01:38:34,959
and first off it just looks fake but if

2074
01:38:40,020 --> 01:38:37,899
you look even closer where the

2075
01:38:41,759 --> 01:38:40,030
reflections and the shadows is it's just

2076
01:38:45,359 --> 01:38:41,769
wrong

2077
01:38:47,609 --> 01:38:45,369
and my eyes my brain is computing and it

2078
01:38:49,229 --> 01:38:47,619
stands out and says no the shadows are

2079
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:49,239
incorrect it's wrong it you know the

2080
01:38:56,939 --> 01:38:53,679
pixelation is and but there are so many

2081
01:39:00,270 --> 01:38:56,949
out there that are convinced that it's

2082
01:39:03,870 --> 01:39:00,280
real and I have a problem with that it's

2083
01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:03,880
like they don't want to they want to

2084
01:39:09,389 --> 01:39:06,249
believe in the in the in the phenomenon

2085
01:39:12,389 --> 01:39:09,399
so much that they're blinded to the

2086
01:39:14,250 --> 01:39:12,399
reality of the situation like that and

2087
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:14,260
and don't try to tell them that they're

2088
01:39:18,659 --> 01:39:16,570
wrong either it was you know some of

2089
01:39:21,179 --> 01:39:18,669
these people they will go off on you

2090
01:39:24,270 --> 01:39:21,189
that's why that's why I don't like

2091
01:39:27,569 --> 01:39:24,280
talking about it the video the video

2092
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:27,579
that was sent out last week I don't know

2093
01:39:31,770 --> 01:39:29,110
if he caught this I think it was Lake

2094
01:39:33,629 --> 01:39:31,780
Tahoe right where these uncle are there

2095
01:39:37,649 --> 01:39:33,639
and there's there's a good I like that

2096
01:39:39,149 --> 01:39:37,659
did you see it yeah yeah okay now I

2097
01:39:43,199 --> 01:39:39,159
don't know what to make of that that's

2098
01:39:46,319 --> 01:39:43,209
pretty interesting okay and so when when

2099
01:39:53,069 --> 01:39:46,329
it slowed down and you saw the craft

2100
01:39:54,750 --> 01:39:53,079
itself did that look correct to you it

2101
01:39:56,459 --> 01:39:54,760
seemed like it was too small and too

2102
01:39:59,790 --> 01:39:56,469
close to the camera to be something real

2103
01:40:01,909 --> 01:39:59,800
high strange although you know you

2104
01:40:05,370 --> 01:40:01,919
remember back about 15 years ago

2105
01:40:07,959 --> 01:40:05,380
he's almost 20 years ago was they

2106
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:07,969
Escamilla in the rod yeah

2107
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:10,850
uh-huh the rod stuff it kind of reminds

2108
01:40:14,140 --> 01:40:12,410
me of something like that but could

2109
01:40:16,540 --> 01:40:14,150
different obviously because you're

2110
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:16,550
scooping doesn't be metallic right right

2111
01:40:22,270 --> 01:40:18,410
right right to be metallic and it does

2112
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:22,280
appear to be actually you know have some

2113
01:40:28,270 --> 01:40:25,730
sort of of actual presence okay now this

2114
01:40:30,550 --> 01:40:28,280
is demo now this is what you need to do

2115
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:30,560
go back and look at the video I didn't

2116
01:40:34,150 --> 01:40:32,690
say anything about this online or in how

2117
01:40:38,410 --> 01:40:34,160
to make any comments but I'll say it now

2118
01:40:40,780 --> 01:40:38,420
go back to look at the video okay go

2119
01:40:44,709 --> 01:40:40,790
back and look and look at the frame the

2120
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:44,719
Sun on the craft the reflection on the

2121
01:40:51,490 --> 01:40:49,610
craft is on its side okay it's on the

2122
01:40:53,110 --> 01:40:51,500
side face in the camera the reflections

2123
01:40:55,270 --> 01:40:53,120
on everything else in the video

2124
01:40:57,700 --> 01:40:55,280
including the people that are blocking

2125
01:41:03,760 --> 01:40:57,710
their eyes from the Sun the Sun is

2126
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:03,770
coming from the left and and so you look

2127
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:06,770
and it's obvious once you look that now

2128
01:41:11,890 --> 01:41:09,410
if it would have been a real craft

2129
01:41:14,050 --> 01:41:11,900
caught in this video the Sun would have

2130
01:41:16,810 --> 01:41:14,060
been reflecting from the fellow edit

2131
01:41:18,610 --> 01:41:16,820
right on the front of the craft and you

2132
01:41:20,500 --> 01:41:18,620
know coming from the left I don't know

2133
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:20,510
what is north south east or west I'm

2134
01:41:23,709 --> 01:41:21,890
just talking about orientation of the

2135
01:41:25,150 --> 01:41:23,719
video as you look at it the Sun is

2136
01:41:26,830 --> 01:41:25,160
coming from the left and you can see the

2137
01:41:29,350 --> 01:41:26,840
reflection on everything else in the

2138
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:29,360
video including the people's heads good

2139
01:41:32,590 --> 01:41:29,810
eye

2140
01:41:33,610 --> 01:41:32,600
okay I didn't look at it close enough I

2141
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:33,620
just thought it looked it looked

2142
01:41:38,770 --> 01:41:36,170
impressive because the first three times

2143
01:41:41,290 --> 01:41:38,780
I watched I couldn't see it I did the

2144
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:41,300
same thing I did the same thing and so

2145
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:43,040
but when you capture it and you just

2146
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:45,170
stopped the frame and you looked the

2147
01:41:54,010 --> 01:41:50,430
[Music]

2148
01:41:56,890 --> 01:41:54,020
so anyway proof this is proof that et is

2149
01:41:59,140 --> 01:41:56,900
here well there you go well you know I

2150
01:42:00,910 --> 01:41:59,150
don't don't don't go there with me I

2151
01:42:03,820 --> 01:42:00,920
think that they are more terrestrial

2152
01:42:05,140 --> 01:42:03,830
than we are I think we're aliens I think

2153
01:42:06,910 --> 01:42:05,150
that they've been here longer than we

2154
01:42:10,209 --> 01:42:06,920
have and there's a good chance we were

2155
01:42:18,340 --> 01:42:10,219
brought here what you are well you do

2156
01:42:20,890 --> 01:42:18,350
have reptilian eyes compression oh and

2157
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:20,900
he's wild lizard people oh yeah look

2158
01:42:24,810 --> 01:42:21,770
right here

2159
01:42:28,810 --> 01:42:24,820
gonna die okay it's called compression

2160
01:42:31,870 --> 01:42:28,820
so everybody is uh posting the pictures

2161
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:31,880
of the tr-3b on the aircraft carrier

2162
01:42:38,170 --> 01:42:34,970
yeah look at that reflection the shadows

2163
01:42:38,590 --> 01:42:38,180
nothing matches it is a it's just too

2164
01:42:42,370 --> 01:42:38,600
funny

2165
01:42:45,970 --> 01:42:42,380
okay the skinwalker ranch

2166
01:42:48,430 --> 01:42:45,980
Jeremy corbels got his new movie out and

2167
01:42:50,950 --> 01:42:48,440
I haven't seen it yet I haven't had the

2168
01:42:53,140 --> 01:42:50,960
time to go and watch it but it is

2169
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:53,150
putting this information back out there

2170
01:43:00,160 --> 01:42:56,690
for everybody to go and bring skinwalker

2171
01:43:03,910 --> 01:43:00,170
into the news and it gets discussed

2172
01:43:06,970 --> 01:43:03,920
have you been to skinwalker yes a number

2173
01:43:09,100 --> 01:43:06,980
of times in fact I was the first outside

2174
01:43:11,110 --> 01:43:09,110
the area investigator up there before

2175
01:43:13,690 --> 01:43:11,120
Bigelow bought the ranch and before the

2176
01:43:15,250 --> 01:43:13,700
article came out in the right that same

2177
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:15,260
week that the article came out in the

2178
01:43:19,180 --> 01:43:17,210
desert rain news I went up that was one

2179
01:43:23,470 --> 01:43:19,190
of the first people to go up there and

2180
01:43:26,890 --> 01:43:23,480
speak with Terry the rancher so compared

2181
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:26,900
to now it seems that you know Steve

2182
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:29,210
Murillo and Alex Mastretta went up there

2183
01:43:33,970 --> 01:43:31,850
they actually broadcasted live from

2184
01:43:36,420 --> 01:43:33,980
skinwalker back onto this program we

2185
01:43:40,450 --> 01:43:36,430
were hoping for something to happen but

2186
01:43:43,030 --> 01:43:40,460
compared to back when you were there to

2187
01:43:44,530 --> 01:43:43,040
now and there isn't anything new that is

2188
01:43:46,690 --> 01:43:44,540
presented in the film you know it's

2189
01:43:49,870 --> 01:43:46,700
George Knapp sold footage which is great

2190
01:43:55,270 --> 01:43:49,880
but it has things started to trail off

2191
01:43:57,700 --> 01:43:55,280
at skinwalker yeah I think that there's

2192
01:44:00,340 --> 01:43:57,710
activity all always going on in you in a

2193
01:44:03,250 --> 01:44:00,350
business that is an extremely active

2194
01:44:07,690 --> 01:44:03,260
area and all you have to do is read the

2195
01:44:10,270 --> 01:44:07,700
great UFO the Utah UFO display by Prince

2196
01:44:12,100 --> 01:44:10,280
Albert and look at the work at he and

2197
01:44:14,260 --> 01:44:12,110
jr. Hayek's sit up there all through the

2198
01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:14,270
sixties into the 70s actually into the

2199
01:44:18,820 --> 01:44:16,310
eighties I mean that's been a hotbed of

2200
01:44:21,730 --> 01:44:18,830
activity for decades and so I think

2201
01:44:25,500 --> 01:44:21,740
there's always activity going on what I

2202
01:44:29,140 --> 01:44:25,510
think and I've come to this educated

2203
01:44:30,910 --> 01:44:29,150
conclusion over time but I have a

2204
01:44:34,300 --> 01:44:30,920
feeling that skinwalker is kind of a red

2205
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:34,310
herring that there's activity going on

2206
01:44:38,290 --> 01:44:35,600
Southwest um

2207
01:44:42,220 --> 01:44:38,300
that's where the real meat and potatoes

2208
01:44:45,730 --> 01:44:42,230
activity is going on down towards Green

2209
01:44:49,180 --> 01:44:45,740
River and and the Green River and and

2210
01:44:53,020 --> 01:44:49,190
price in the the book I think called

2211
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:53,030
them the one day the bookshelf hill down

2212
01:44:59,170 --> 01:44:56,570
there before you get to the river that's

2213
01:45:02,650 --> 01:44:59,180
where I think the real activity is

2214
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:02,660
happening and I think the center of the

2215
01:45:05,470 --> 01:45:04,610
activity has moved south and by

2216
01:45:09,340 --> 01:45:05,480
Southwest

2217
01:45:11,890 --> 01:45:09,350
I think the activity m's and flows like

2218
01:45:14,980 --> 01:45:11,900
I said all through the area there's been

2219
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:14,990
really amazing reports down by Baxter

2220
01:45:20,350 --> 01:45:17,210
path which is a path that goes over into

2221
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:20,360
Colorado south of bonanza there's been

2222
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:24,050
reports directly south of there there's

2223
01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:25,730
been reports directly north of there

2224
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:27,760
right at the base of the Uinta Mountains

2225
01:45:35,170 --> 01:45:30,890
so I think skin markers you know I think

2226
01:45:37,300 --> 01:45:35,180
it does have something to do with what's

2227
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:37,310
going on there in terms of it could be

2228
01:45:43,210 --> 01:45:40,610
indicative of where this egress point is

2229
01:45:46,390 --> 01:45:43,220
or an entrance and exit point may be

2230
01:45:50,530 --> 01:45:46,400
located there let's say for the sake of

2231
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:50,540
of conjecture and I do you think that it

2232
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:53,930
plays an important role but I think it's

2233
01:45:58,540 --> 01:45:57,290
I think it's not by accident than people

2234
01:46:01,450 --> 01:45:58,550
are being told as they keep looking

2235
01:46:03,790 --> 01:46:01,460
there and lots of information is in lots

2236
01:46:06,310 --> 01:46:03,800
of you know a lot of people are being

2237
01:46:08,380 --> 01:46:06,320
fascinated by that particular spot when

2238
01:46:10,630 --> 01:46:08,390
they don't realize that there's a lot of

2239
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:10,640
different areas in that you win a basin

2240
01:46:17,410 --> 01:46:15,290
that should be just as important for

2241
01:46:21,420 --> 01:46:17,420
investigators to be checking out is it

2242
01:46:25,060 --> 01:46:21,430
is it et related or is it terrestrial

2243
01:46:27,010 --> 01:46:25,070
interdimensional stuff going on you know

2244
01:46:28,900 --> 01:46:27,020
that would be that would be my choice

2245
01:46:30,130 --> 01:46:28,910
and I think that somehow these

2246
01:46:33,580 --> 01:46:30,140
Department of Defense have gotten

2247
01:46:35,110 --> 01:46:33,590
involved and you know once that happens

2248
01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:35,120
then all bets are off because you never

2249
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:38,000
know what you know whether it's real or

2250
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:41,210
Memorex or whether it's contrived I mean

2251
01:46:45,460 --> 01:46:42,650
the government does do interesting

2252
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:45,470
things in hotspot areas I personally

2253
01:46:49,660 --> 01:46:48,290
have seen conventional aircraft rigged

2254
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:49,670
up with lighting to make them

2255
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:51,890
unconventional I've seen that with my

2256
01:46:59,830 --> 01:46:56,210
own eyes I've I've seen too much you

2257
01:47:02,200 --> 01:46:59,840
know evidence of government involvement

2258
01:47:05,170 --> 01:47:02,210
in in the classified areas kind of weird

2259
01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:05,180
convoy sniffing around temporary

2260
01:47:10,420 --> 01:47:07,040
buildings that are up for a couple days

2261
01:47:12,670 --> 01:47:10,430
and then disappear people being kept out

2262
01:47:14,830 --> 01:47:12,680
of areas where it seems like there's

2263
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:14,840
military government activity going on

2264
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:18,650
very very subtle very clandestine very

2265
01:47:25,870 --> 01:47:23,810
very under the radar real low-key but in

2266
01:47:28,180 --> 01:47:25,880
the Uintah Basin there's some other

2267
01:47:30,730 --> 01:47:28,190
things that have been reported having

2268
01:47:33,940 --> 01:47:30,740
and flowing there and the San Luis

2269
01:47:35,770 --> 01:47:33,950
Valley is like that there's been reports

2270
01:47:39,310 --> 01:47:35,780
of things like that around white sands

2271
01:47:41,170 --> 01:47:39,320
of course the Missile Range there and oh

2272
01:47:44,440 --> 01:47:41,180
gosh they moved the whole town out of

2273
01:47:46,810 --> 01:47:44,450
the Westland Colorado right at the

2274
01:47:49,480 --> 01:47:46,820
border just below the winter basin one

2275
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:49,490
time some big sighting was seeing they

2276
01:47:53,710 --> 01:47:51,290
moved everybody out of town to Grand

2277
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:53,720
Junction for a couple of days and let

2278
01:47:58,690 --> 01:47:56,810
everybody back in and people traveling

2279
01:48:00,220 --> 01:47:58,700
on i-70 said that there are these huge

2280
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:00,230
lights down there and there was all

2281
01:48:04,150 --> 01:48:02,090
these what appeared to be military

2282
01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:04,160
activity in the town and they couldn't

2283
01:48:10,530 --> 01:48:06,800
figure out what was going on so the area

2284
01:48:13,540 --> 01:48:10,540
has always had a lot of interesting

2285
01:48:17,050 --> 01:48:13,550
military s kak Tiffany as well so I

2286
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:17,060
don't think we can factor the human side

2287
01:48:20,950 --> 01:48:19,370
of it out there at skinwalker away no

2288
01:48:23,110 --> 01:48:20,960
choice I think it's a whole potpourri of

2289
01:48:26,890 --> 01:48:23,120
things going on yeah well what I find

2290
01:48:29,620 --> 01:48:26,900
interesting is the also sometimes the

2291
01:48:33,450 --> 01:48:29,630
lack of military involvement when there

2292
01:48:36,550 --> 01:48:33,460
are things going on up at Joshua Tree

2293
01:48:38,460 --> 01:48:36,560
which you have 29 palms right there

2294
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:38,470
right one of the biggest Marine

2295
01:48:44,500 --> 01:48:40,970
installations in in the world rights

2296
01:48:47,890 --> 01:48:44,510
right there training aircraft they've

2297
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:47,900
got it all right there 29 palms and it's

2298
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:51,410
19 miles away from the the retreat

2299
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:54,410
center and we are there for three years

2300
01:49:01,150 --> 01:48:56,570
in a row out there on that Cliff seeing

2301
01:49:03,190 --> 01:49:01,160
the craziest stuff and one

2302
01:49:05,050 --> 01:49:03,200
you know the the famous sighting that we

2303
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:05,060
had there you know there's there's that

2304
01:49:10,090 --> 01:49:07,370
you know the the green chrome balls and

2305
01:49:13,540 --> 01:49:10,100
that that lasted for five minutes that

2306
01:49:15,820 --> 01:49:13,550
went from the desert you know from the

2307
01:49:17,530 --> 01:49:15,830
desert all the way up to the atmosphere

2308
01:49:20,710 --> 01:49:17,540
you know we watched this craft just take

2309
01:49:23,590 --> 01:49:20,720
off and and and head up and and take off

2310
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:23,600
into space now you watch something like

2311
01:49:29,770 --> 01:49:26,090
that happen and then we had the the the

2312
01:49:33,370 --> 01:49:29,780
famous Zorro Z you know that happened

2313
01:49:39,010 --> 01:49:33,380
and that was miles wide Chris you know

2314
01:49:39,540 --> 01:49:39,020
in the sky giant event 29 palms is right

2315
01:49:45,310 --> 01:49:39,550
there

2316
01:49:49,390 --> 01:49:45,320
radar military aircraft Heligan they

2317
01:49:50,440 --> 01:49:49,400
didn't dispatch anything yes yes yes

2318
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:50,450
exactly

2319
01:49:56,140 --> 01:49:53,110
and it was like they weren't interested

2320
01:49:59,890 --> 01:49:56,150
you know and we're watching these crazy

2321
01:50:02,470 --> 01:49:59,900
thing one I mean just one event after

2322
01:50:04,690 --> 01:50:02,480
another happening right next to the

2323
01:50:06,700 --> 01:50:04,700
Marine base and it was they didn't

2324
01:50:12,070 --> 01:50:06,710
dispatch one craft there was not one

2325
01:50:18,670 --> 01:50:12,080
helicopter f-16 at 1522 what happened

2326
01:50:21,190 --> 01:50:18,680
nothing they just let it right you don't

2327
01:50:23,230 --> 01:50:21,200
this is this is what this is my

2328
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:23,240
conclusion with that is that they

2329
01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:25,850
couldn't do anything they were used to

2330
01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:28,400
it they see it all the time and they

2331
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:30,110
know that there's something that they

2332
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:32,570
could do so it's just another night in

2333
01:50:39,010 --> 01:50:35,770
Joshua Tree for them that's what it said

2334
01:50:41,020 --> 01:50:39,020
they had a craft around there then you

2335
01:50:44,470 --> 01:50:41,030
would think well it's them they're

2336
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:44,480
monitoring their own like PSYOP type of

2337
01:50:49,210 --> 01:50:46,610
you know drone or something in the

2338
01:50:51,460 --> 01:50:49,220
hypersonic drone possibly or some sort

2339
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:51,470
of a knee grab device or you know that's

2340
01:50:56,140 --> 01:50:53,690
when you see the Tenjin aircraft

2341
01:50:59,470 --> 01:50:56,150
helicopters around convoy sniffing

2342
01:51:01,810 --> 01:50:59,480
around SUV convoys with a bunch of

2343
01:51:03,910 --> 01:51:01,820
antennas on each of the cars you know

2344
01:51:07,540 --> 01:51:03,920
zipping around a very low-key

2345
01:51:10,090 --> 01:51:07,550
clandestine you know like in and you

2346
01:51:13,270 --> 01:51:10,100
know if there are so many different

2347
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:13,280
things that are involved in waves of UFO

2348
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:14,930
reports and in

2349
01:51:20,020 --> 01:51:18,320
this type of activity and it's very

2350
01:51:22,930 --> 01:51:20,030
difficult sometimes I think to unwind

2351
01:51:25,060 --> 01:51:22,940
and unravel what's really you know

2352
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:25,070
operative and what's going on and I

2353
01:51:28,750 --> 01:51:27,050
think some people jump to conclusions

2354
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:28,760
too quickly without having all the facts

2355
01:51:35,770 --> 01:51:31,970
and without really digging a few

2356
01:51:38,010 --> 01:51:35,780
shovelfuls deeper Jason just tweeted out

2357
01:51:41,050 --> 01:51:38,020
check this out Chris Jason just tweeted

2358
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:41,060
one highlight of my life was being

2359
01:51:49,180 --> 01:51:44,210
present for the Zorro UFO and hearing

2360
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:49,190
Jimmy go nuts right so and and what is

2361
01:51:58,200 --> 01:51:53,210
so cool about that tweet Chris is that I

2362
01:52:09,250 --> 01:52:05,050
it was crazy and when that and and I

2363
01:52:12,460 --> 01:52:09,260
will never shut up about that I am their

2364
01:52:14,020 --> 01:52:12,470
support for this it was a crazy and that

2365
01:52:18,610 --> 01:52:14,030
was naked eye you know that was just

2366
01:52:25,950 --> 01:52:18,620
blown across and but if if we saw it

2367
01:52:30,250 --> 01:52:29,290
like everybody else because it was right

2368
01:52:33,310 --> 01:52:30,260
there in the sky

2369
01:52:35,260 --> 01:52:33,320
why wouldn't they respond you know I

2370
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:35,270
think the nail on there they know

2371
01:52:39,970 --> 01:52:37,730
there's nothing they could do so by

2372
01:52:42,340 --> 01:52:39,980
responding in knowing that there's

2373
01:52:44,950 --> 01:52:42,350
nothing they can do they're just looking

2374
01:52:46,780 --> 01:52:44,960
looking like they're not in control the

2375
01:52:48,550 --> 01:52:46,790
government's job is to be in control of

2376
01:52:50,110 --> 01:52:48,560
everything okay it doesn't matter what

2377
01:52:52,570 --> 01:52:50,120
it is the government wants to be in

2378
01:52:57,460 --> 01:52:52,580
control and they will bend over

2379
01:53:00,580 --> 01:52:57,470
backwards to not appear to be not in

2380
01:53:04,510 --> 01:53:00,590
control well when we come back I'm gonna

2381
01:53:06,970 --> 01:53:04,520
set this up for the return one one host

2382
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:06,980
to another I'm gonna set this up for you

2383
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:10,970
chris is here we are going through a

2384
01:53:17,410 --> 01:53:15,130
pretty amazing year of UFO activity

2385
01:53:19,540 --> 01:53:17,420
reports it seems like we've got the

2386
01:53:22,870 --> 01:53:19,550
media behind us now finally talking

2387
01:53:26,060 --> 01:53:22,880
about it and in disclosure and and you

2388
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:26,070
know we've got these reports fresh today

2389
01:53:33,500 --> 01:53:29,280
of ireland did you hear about that yeah

2390
01:53:38,209 --> 01:53:33,510
okay and so yeah yeah exactly

2391
01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:38,219
here we are is disclosure are we are are

2392
01:53:46,729 --> 01:53:40,800
we on the on the edge of something big

2393
01:53:48,770 --> 01:53:46,739
about to break yeah yeah we should talk

2394
01:53:51,890 --> 01:53:48,780
about that definitely well what do you

2395
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:51,900
think can you feel it is it is it

2396
01:53:57,379 --> 01:53:55,650
terrible yeah I can feel it sure but

2397
01:54:00,310 --> 01:53:57,389
again I think the whole idea of

2398
01:54:03,530 --> 01:54:00,320
disclosure is totally is totally

2399
01:54:06,109 --> 01:54:03,540
beholden to the wishes of that which we

2400
01:54:11,390 --> 01:54:06,119
want disclosure about I don't think that

2401
01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:11,400
the government has any file in any file

2402
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:13,440
cabinet that they can whip out and and

2403
01:54:17,930 --> 01:54:15,810
tell us definitively what we're dealing

2404
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:17,940
with I think that they know a lot more

2405
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:20,730
than we do and and I think your level of

2406
01:54:24,890 --> 01:54:23,520
confusion is based on how much you know

2407
01:54:25,939 --> 01:54:24,900
and since they know a lot more than we

2408
01:54:28,129 --> 01:54:25,949
do that means if there are a lot more

2409
01:54:30,859 --> 01:54:28,139
confused than we are and we're pretty

2410
01:54:32,300 --> 01:54:30,869
confused so that's saying a lot I think

2411
01:54:34,510 --> 01:54:32,310
the government will never admit that

2412
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:34,520
they're not in control of any situation

2413
01:54:39,379 --> 01:54:37,170
now someone like a you know a wild card

2414
01:54:41,660 --> 01:54:39,389
like the Donald Trump maybe if he got a

2415
01:54:45,169 --> 01:54:41,670
hold of some information or was actually

2416
01:54:48,050 --> 01:54:45,179
allowed to be read in to a level of

2417
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:48,060
secure information that he would be the

2418
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:49,530
type of person that would just kind of

2419
01:54:54,589 --> 01:54:52,530
lose his head you know possibly spill

2420
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:54,599
the beans whatever beans there are to be

2421
01:54:59,899 --> 01:54:56,250
spill but I really think that it's up to

2422
01:55:02,359 --> 01:54:59,909
the to the ETS or the extra dimensionals

2423
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:02,369
or the Time Traveler's or the you know

2424
01:55:08,899 --> 01:55:06,810
whatever is going on I think I think

2425
01:55:10,339 --> 01:55:08,909
it's totally beholden to them to

2426
01:55:13,220 --> 01:55:10,349
disclose their presence and the very

2427
01:55:14,750 --> 01:55:13,230
fact that they haven't gives me the

2428
01:55:19,790 --> 01:55:14,760
indication that they're not going to

2429
01:55:24,379 --> 01:55:19,800
anytime soon the the the word disclosure

2430
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:24,389
when when I say and I say it often that

2431
01:55:28,220 --> 01:55:26,610
I don't need it right I've had my

2432
01:55:32,180 --> 01:55:28,230
sightings I know you know there's

2433
01:55:35,270 --> 01:55:32,190
something crazy going on right exactly

2434
01:55:36,830 --> 01:55:35,280
so for me right but when I say that and

2435
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:36,840
certainly when I say that kind of stuff

2436
01:55:43,130 --> 01:55:39,330
publicly I get murmur

2437
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:43,140
I you know I get anger from because what

2438
01:55:52,190 --> 01:55:48,210
they want they buy me saying that is not

2439
01:55:54,020 --> 01:55:52,200
what they want what they want is you

2440
01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:54,030
know the president stepping up on live

2441
01:56:01,700 --> 01:55:57,360
television and until that happens it

2442
01:56:03,500 --> 01:56:01,710
disclosure hasn't occurred and even if

2443
01:56:04,850 --> 01:56:03,510
that does happen half the population

2444
01:56:06,980 --> 01:56:04,860
won't believe it they'll take it some

2445
01:56:09,770 --> 01:56:06,990
gimmick or some trick they'll think of

2446
01:56:11,750 --> 01:56:09,780
some you know their attempt to control

2447
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:11,760
all the information to get it out of it

2448
01:56:15,830 --> 01:56:13,290
you know there's no people will

2449
01:56:18,050 --> 01:56:15,840
second-guess something that dramatic I

2450
01:56:21,170 --> 01:56:18,060
think especially in other countries

2451
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:21,180
around the world well okay let's take a

2452
01:56:26,030 --> 01:56:23,610
break we're gonna finish this up that

2453
01:56:28,340 --> 01:56:26,040
this is a this is a subject that is

2454
01:56:29,810 --> 01:56:28,350
important to all of us so we'll we'll

2455
01:56:31,340 --> 01:56:29,820
finish that thought when we come back

2456
01:56:32,650 --> 01:56:31,350
our guest tonight christopher o'brien

2457
01:56:34,730 --> 01:56:32,660
lots more to talk about

2458
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this is fade to black i'm your

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signatures stay with us

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2518
01:59:03,490 --> 01:59:00,010
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2519
01:59:07,790 --> 01:59:05,780
this is Jimmy Church of fade to black

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2523
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2524
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2525
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I've been drinking that has had great

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it's called life changed tea and it's

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specially formulated to help detoxify

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blood all at once the colon is one of

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the most ignored organs in the human

2535
01:59:47,300 --> 01:59:45,510
body the faster that waste is eliminated

2536
01:59:49,310 --> 01:59:47,310
from the body the less time that way

2537
01:59:51,290 --> 01:59:49,320
sits in our intestines spreading toxins

2538
01:59:53,180 --> 01:59:51,300
to our bloodstream this tea helps

2539
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:53,190
cleanse chemicals caused by outside

2540
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2541
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2542
02:00:02,660 --> 02:00:00,449
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02:00:05,060 --> 02:00:02,670
the tea you can experience clearer

2544
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2545
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2546
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if you're tired of being tired

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get the life change tea at get the tea

2548
02:00:17,439 --> 02:00:15,929
calm that's get the tea calm and like me

2549
02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:17,449
you'll be glad you did

2550
02:00:21,350 --> 02:00:19,650
did you know that when you're on the

2551
02:00:23,810 --> 02:00:21,360
road with limited data or Wi-Fi

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available you can still listen to every

2553
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minute of fade to black by just calling

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it saves your data plan and no extra

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2559
02:00:44,380 --> 02:00:41,640
eight two you can listen to me Jimmy

2560
02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:44,390
Church on any phone anytime anywhere

2561
02:00:51,210 --> 02:00:55,240
[Music]

2562
02:01:01,640 --> 02:00:57,380
you want to know a secret

2563
02:01:04,580 --> 02:01:01,650
I love ponies I really love ponies I'm

2564
02:01:09,110 --> 02:01:04,590
serious I couldn't stay sane without

2565
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:09,120
poor mr. Brooks I fade to black because

2566
02:01:18,360 --> 02:01:16,440
this is fade to black

2567
02:01:22,050 --> 02:01:18,370
with Jimmy Church on the game changer

2568
02:01:24,090 --> 02:01:22,060
radio network and kgr a the global radio

2569
02:01:35,390 --> 02:01:24,100
alliance

2570
02:01:41,350 --> 02:01:37,700
all right welcome back fade to black

2571
02:01:45,020 --> 02:01:41,360
yeah that was that was whack

2572
02:01:47,870 --> 02:01:45,030
that was that was system-wide that was

2573
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:47,880
bizarre I blame it all on Chris O'Brien

2574
02:01:51,709 --> 02:01:48,770
though

2575
02:01:55,060 --> 02:01:51,719
Chris's fall was Chris you know you

2576
02:01:59,979 --> 02:01:55,070
start talking about the government

2577
02:02:04,640 --> 02:01:59,989
disclosure and in our website crashed

2578
02:02:06,979 --> 02:02:04,650
YouTube that the whole it was just like

2579
02:02:10,370 --> 02:02:06,989
blip blip blip blip blip and everything

2580
02:02:12,010 --> 02:02:10,380
was fine here sigh that was that was

2581
02:02:15,350 --> 02:02:12,020
that was really strange

2582
02:02:17,090 --> 02:02:15,360
well yeah I don't even react anymore

2583
02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:17,100
Chris you know you know what was weird

2584
02:02:23,300 --> 02:02:20,370
this is the true that this is as true as

2585
02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:23,310
anything I've ever said when I did

2586
02:02:31,610 --> 02:02:28,650
sports radio never nothing technically I

2587
02:02:33,890 --> 02:02:31,620
never a hitch everything rock-solid

2588
02:02:36,260 --> 02:02:33,900
every single day you start doing this

2589
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:36,270
stuff and conspiracies and things and

2590
02:02:46,610 --> 02:02:43,290
and weirdness it's it it's yeah it is

2591
02:02:47,330 --> 02:02:46,620
par for the course so let's let's yeah I

2592
02:02:50,570 --> 02:02:47,340
know right

2593
02:02:52,399 --> 02:02:50,580
totally totally let's get back to where

2594
02:02:57,520 --> 02:02:52,409
we were though and somebody who just

2595
02:03:03,649 --> 02:03:00,169
you said something interesting that if

2596
02:03:08,540 --> 02:03:03,659
the president got up POTUS he's on the

2597
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:08,550
podium he's live that half of the world

2598
02:03:14,930 --> 02:03:13,170
would would react like that there's

2599
02:03:18,919 --> 02:03:14,940
another message they're doing this for a

2600
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:18,929
reason I I write I look at it a little

2601
02:03:23,689 --> 02:03:21,090
bit different I don't want your feeling

2602
02:03:25,939 --> 02:03:23,699
on this that when the day of disclosure

2603
02:03:27,950 --> 02:03:25,949
happened you know December 16th last

2604
02:03:31,490 --> 02:03:27,960
year with the with the New York Times

2605
02:03:34,700 --> 02:03:31,500
and what happened in in in mass media my

2606
02:03:36,860 --> 02:03:34,710
family that never talks about UFOs they

2607
02:03:38,750 --> 02:03:36,870
know what I do for a job right but they

2608
02:03:42,290 --> 02:03:38,760
you know they don't talk to me about it

2609
02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:42,300
but their reaction was so what we're not

2610
02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:45,090
alone we knew it and I thought that was

2611
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:48,130
a pretty interesting reaction

2612
02:03:53,100 --> 02:03:50,170
Wall Street didn't collapse right the

2613
02:03:55,320 --> 02:03:53,110
Vatican didn't burn down people didn't

2614
02:04:00,990 --> 02:03:55,330
jump off of buildings it seemed like it

2615
02:04:02,580 --> 02:04:01,000
was pretty status quo yeah well again

2616
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:02,590
that's going back to what we were

2617
02:04:06,900 --> 02:04:04,690
talking about earlier is the power of

2618
02:04:10,350 --> 02:04:06,910
the media how we've been sort of just

2619
02:04:12,690 --> 02:04:10,360
dashed over the head with the subject

2620
02:04:15,150 --> 02:04:12,700
this is one of the biggest income

2621
02:04:17,130 --> 02:04:15,160
producing subjects on television you

2622
02:04:18,810 --> 02:04:17,140
know ancient aliens is a top show in the

2623
02:04:22,230 --> 02:04:18,820
history of the History Channel besides

2624
02:04:24,510 --> 02:04:22,240
maybe Pawn Stars you know you're looking

2625
02:04:27,630 --> 02:04:24,520
at a tremendous upsurge of interest in

2626
02:04:29,340 --> 02:04:27,640
these subjects as more and more emphasis

2627
02:04:31,740 --> 02:04:29,350
on these subjects because being placed

2628
02:04:34,740 --> 02:04:31,750
in the media and now that we're we're

2629
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:34,750
you know the gray the gray lady is you

2630
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:36,610
know and then in Wall Street Journal and

2631
02:04:43,980 --> 02:04:39,730
The Washington Post CNN and now Fox News

2632
02:04:48,090 --> 02:04:43,990
are covering you know the whole tic-tac

2633
02:04:50,790 --> 02:04:48,100
videos and the Manomet story and the

2634
02:04:53,370 --> 02:04:50,800
whole thing with the with the big low

2635
02:04:57,750 --> 02:04:53,380
aerospace being involved with Lou

2636
02:04:59,790 --> 02:04:57,760
elizondo's group it it's it's just

2637
02:05:01,920 --> 02:04:59,800
incremental I think disclosure has been

2638
02:05:05,340 --> 02:05:01,930
going on for many years we're just

2639
02:05:08,460 --> 02:05:05,350
seeing it if I try to watch the minute

2640
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:08,470
hand on a clock the old analog clocks we

2641
02:05:13,200 --> 02:05:10,450
can't yet move but you know it is moving

2642
02:05:16,110 --> 02:05:13,210
so we're gradually creeping forward and

2643
02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:16,120
the further we go the more the media

2644
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:17,920
covers this stuff the more jaded people

2645
02:05:22,530 --> 02:05:20,770
become especially the kids there is a

2646
02:05:24,870 --> 02:05:22,540
place you know the whole idea of

2647
02:05:28,260 --> 02:05:24,880
conferences is going to you know go the

2648
02:05:30,540 --> 02:05:28,270
way of the cassette tape and and en

2649
02:05:33,810 --> 02:05:30,550
records or cassette you know they let's

2650
02:05:35,970 --> 02:05:33,820
say 8-track tapes because they want to

2651
02:05:37,890 --> 02:05:35,980
go and sit down in a hard chair and

2652
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:37,900
listen the you know speaker after

2653
02:05:43,290 --> 02:05:41,170
speaker then don't tune in online but

2654
02:05:46,050 --> 02:05:43,300
they can't afford that you know spend

2655
02:05:48,180 --> 02:05:46,060
for a hotel fly themselves there you

2656
02:05:49,860 --> 02:05:48,190
know go out to dinner and all this stuff

2657
02:05:52,110 --> 02:05:49,870
the only reason really why a lot of

2658
02:05:54,210 --> 02:05:52,120
these people Baby Boomers do this and

2659
02:05:55,710 --> 02:05:54,220
continue to do it I think is because

2660
02:05:57,930 --> 02:05:55,720
it's a social thing they get to see

2661
02:05:59,880 --> 02:05:57,940
people they haven't seen in a while you

2662
02:06:01,830 --> 02:05:59,890
know they have a whole set of friends

2663
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:01,840
that they reconnect with when I

2664
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:04,090
these conferences I never go listen to

2665
02:06:08,430 --> 02:06:05,890
the speakers I'm always you know

2666
02:06:10,530 --> 02:06:08,440
reconnecting with people and comparing

2667
02:06:13,950 --> 02:06:10,540
notes and and networking and stuff

2668
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:13,960
that's kind of what I do so I think

2669
02:06:19,620 --> 02:06:17,050
we're seeing a whole new generation now

2670
02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:19,630
coming up in and uh you know I need look

2671
02:06:24,510 --> 02:06:22,690
at the you go to the UFO Congress and

2672
02:06:27,030 --> 02:06:24,520
you go to move on the average age there

2673
02:06:32,820 --> 02:06:27,040
is in the mid sixties okay I wanted a

2674
02:06:34,260 --> 02:06:32,830
young guy Yeah right so the whole thing

2675
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:34,270
is gonna shift there's going to be

2676
02:06:38,670 --> 02:06:36,490
complete changes it's the same way with

2677
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:38,680
the record industry it's the same way

2678
02:06:44,010 --> 02:06:41,050
you know with with broadcast you know

2679
02:06:45,690 --> 02:06:44,020
major network television you know what

2680
02:06:48,750 --> 02:06:45,700
we're seeing because of the internet

2681
02:06:50,670 --> 02:06:48,760
because of the access information with

2682
02:06:52,650 --> 02:06:50,680
being a complete shift and how this

2683
02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:52,660
information is delivered and that's

2684
02:06:57,930 --> 02:06:54,130
gonna that's going to impact I think

2685
02:07:00,030 --> 02:06:57,940
greatly the paranormal subject matter

2686
02:07:05,310 --> 02:07:00,040
that we're all in what do you think

2687
02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:05,320
about disclosure happening with POTUS

2688
02:07:12,360 --> 02:07:08,290
and the podium that's one thing but what

2689
02:07:16,580 --> 02:07:12,370
about a blowout accidental disclosure

2690
02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:16,590
one that you can't deny such as

2691
02:07:24,060 --> 02:07:20,650
WikiLeaks or some type of data dump or a

2692
02:07:26,720 --> 02:07:24,070
hack or anonymous getting in you know

2693
02:07:31,020 --> 02:07:26,730
like Gary McKinnon you know getting into

2694
02:07:33,900 --> 02:07:31,030
NASA's computers where that would happen

2695
02:07:37,770 --> 02:07:33,910
and then they are forced into a

2696
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:37,780
disclosure situation where yeah yeah I

2697
02:07:42,570 --> 02:07:40,090
can see that but I think number one it's

2698
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:42,580
very compartmentalized and most of the

2699
02:07:47,190 --> 02:07:45,130
real salacious stuff the real meat and

2700
02:07:50,070 --> 02:07:47,200
potatoes the real good stuff is in the

2701
02:07:52,590 --> 02:07:50,080
private sector and that's pretty

2702
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:52,600
difficult to get at you really have to

2703
02:07:58,350 --> 02:07:54,850
have some sort of whistleblower that's

2704
02:08:00,270 --> 02:07:58,360
gonna leak some way for a hacker keen

2705
02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:00,280
and well I'll go check this out go check

2706
02:08:07,320 --> 02:08:03,130
that out and pull it out of you know

2707
02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:07,330
Aerodyne or TRW or you know any of these

2708
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:10,480
I guess both of those don't exist

2709
02:08:14,610 --> 02:08:12,490
anymore but McDonnell Douglas from

2710
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:14,620
Boeing you know that's probably where a

2711
02:08:18,420 --> 02:08:15,610
lot of this

2712
02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:18,430
so when you say private sector yeah when

2713
02:08:22,020 --> 02:08:19,930
you say private sector you're talking

2714
02:08:25,890 --> 02:08:22,030
about Lockheed or skunk works yeah yeah

2715
02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:25,900
yeah yeah I said I think a lot of it is

2716
02:08:31,260 --> 02:08:29,050
and in their ports out of the reach of

2717
02:08:34,410 --> 02:08:31,270
the Freedom of Information Act request

2718
02:08:37,110 --> 02:08:34,420
in John Greenwald obviously you've had

2719
02:08:40,260 --> 02:08:37,120
him on the show he's a real good person

2720
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:40,270
to you know to get a hit on how much he

2721
02:08:48,750 --> 02:08:44,730
thinks is really in in the government

2722
02:08:50,430 --> 02:08:48,760
files compartmentalize away from most of

2723
02:08:53,850 --> 02:08:50,440
us you know of course we have our

2724
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:53,860
wright-patterson and you know some of

2725
02:08:59,550 --> 02:08:57,130
the the work that they do counter

2726
02:09:01,220 --> 02:08:59,560
espionage on foreign technology and and

2727
02:09:03,450 --> 02:09:01,230
things like that

2728
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:03,460
chances are there is some stuff there

2729
02:09:10,350 --> 02:09:07,650
there there may be other stuff and Rd

2730
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:10,360
programs think tanks that sort of thing

2731
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:12,370
but I think they're real meat and

2732
02:09:21,660 --> 02:09:15,450
potatoes of the real texts of the the

2733
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:21,670
possible crash objects technology things

2734
02:09:25,310 --> 02:09:23,410
that can be back engineer that sort of

2735
02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:25,320
thing I'm pretty sure that that's been

2736
02:09:30,840 --> 02:09:28,330
rolled away and they were consortium a

2737
02:09:33,450 --> 02:09:30,850
private private industry especially

2738
02:09:37,140 --> 02:09:33,460
analysis how do you react to that though

2739
02:09:40,470 --> 02:09:37,150
in the backwards engineering aspect of

2740
02:09:42,570 --> 02:09:40,480
it certainly if it has occurred and it

2741
02:09:44,490 --> 02:09:42,580
probably has I don't have any proof of

2742
02:09:47,220 --> 02:09:44,500
that but we wouldn't be the only ones

2743
02:09:49,850 --> 02:09:47,230
the Russians must have crashed and

2744
02:09:54,660 --> 02:09:49,860
macron engineer self or Chinese or

2745
02:09:57,060 --> 02:09:54,670
Brazil right it's a bit yeah right a

2746
02:09:59,730 --> 02:09:57,070
good book to read is Jacques fouet's

2747
02:10:01,020 --> 02:09:59,740
books and he co-wrote with the help of

2748
02:10:02,700 --> 02:10:01,030
tracing Torme

2749
02:10:05,490 --> 02:10:02,710
who of course was the scene this story

2750
02:10:07,460 --> 02:10:05,500
editor for Star Trek news generation did

2751
02:10:10,650 --> 02:10:07,470
the the fire in the sky movie about

2752
02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:10,660
Travis Walton wrote the script produced

2753
02:10:14,790 --> 02:10:13,570
it he was that Lee wrote a book that not

2754
02:10:16,380 --> 02:10:14,800
many people you know people tend to

2755
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:16,390
forget about it's called fast Walker

2756
02:10:23,040 --> 02:10:19,810
it's based on his novel II did in France

2757
02:10:25,700 --> 02:10:23,050
called a intell and it's it's a loosely

2758
02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:25,710
disclose of fictionalized

2759
02:10:32,430 --> 02:10:29,290
it's a fictionalized story

2760
02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:32,440
Oh reporter getting into an underground

2761
02:10:39,630 --> 02:10:36,130
base seeing the technology finding out

2762
02:10:42,810 --> 02:10:39,640
that it it's probably biological and and

2763
02:10:46,590 --> 02:10:42,820
is involved with their interfaces with

2764
02:10:49,050 --> 02:10:46,600
human consciousness their spatial you

2765
02:10:51,380 --> 02:10:49,060
know wild spatial things you go inside

2766
02:10:55,050 --> 02:10:51,390
you need to be inside a huge you know

2767
02:10:56,940 --> 02:10:55,060
spaces no way it could be inside that

2768
02:10:58,530 --> 02:10:56,950
small object and go in there and like

2769
02:11:00,000 --> 02:10:58,540
you're in you know another world like

2770
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:00,010
you walk through a little Alice in

2771
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:02,530
Wonderland this would be I think there's

2772
02:11:07,620 --> 02:11:04,930
a lot of clues in there and ballet wrote

2773
02:11:10,410 --> 02:11:07,630
that book for a very specific reason he

2774
02:11:12,810 --> 02:11:10,420
wanted to be able to tell his public

2775
02:11:15,450 --> 02:11:12,820
something that he couldn't tell them as

2776
02:11:17,790 --> 02:11:15,460
being reality based but something that

2777
02:11:19,950 --> 02:11:17,800
he can fictionalized so maybe get some

2778
02:11:22,290 --> 02:11:19,960
points across and I I just be read that

2779
02:11:24,630 --> 02:11:22,300
again for the first time a number of

2780
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:24,640
years and and I I do recommend that

2781
02:11:28,590 --> 02:11:26,320
people if they if you really want to

2782
02:11:30,570 --> 02:11:28,600
have a sense of an insider's view of

2783
02:11:34,530 --> 02:11:30,580
what's going on I think it's a really

2784
02:11:37,380 --> 02:11:34,540
good book yeah it reminded me so much

2785
02:11:39,300 --> 02:11:37,390
the way of my screenplay that I wrote

2786
02:11:43,070 --> 02:11:39,310
that then also has some pretty

2787
02:11:46,950 --> 02:11:43,080
interesting twists in there about the

2788
02:11:49,350 --> 02:11:46,960
possible ability to back engineer

2789
02:11:52,020 --> 02:11:49,360
technology and and to use antigrav and

2790
02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:52,030
that sort of thing what do we do with

2791
02:11:57,660 --> 02:11:55,210
the I want to wrap up with this thought

2792
02:12:01,370 --> 02:11:57,670
what do we do with the abduction

2793
02:12:05,700 --> 02:12:01,380
phenomenon you know as a community where

2794
02:12:08,420 --> 02:12:05,710
so many out there have the numbers

2795
02:12:11,370 --> 02:12:08,430
probably in the millions right that has

2796
02:12:14,250 --> 02:12:11,380
the same experiences and the same

2797
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:14,260
memories and the same story that is told

2798
02:12:24,450 --> 02:12:19,810
over and over again that is we're taking

2799
02:12:27,780 --> 02:12:24,460
a step in in a direction of fantastical

2800
02:12:29,220 --> 02:12:27,790
but so many have the the same experience

2801
02:12:31,710 --> 02:12:29,230
over and over again you've interviewed

2802
02:12:33,540 --> 02:12:31,720
and and talked to so many that have

2803
02:12:37,530 --> 02:12:33,550
these experiences what did we do with

2804
02:12:39,450 --> 02:12:37,540
that well you know I think the abduction

2805
02:12:41,610 --> 02:12:39,460
phenomenon this very very complicated

2806
02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:41,620
there's a lot of different elements at

2807
02:12:44,250 --> 02:12:42,730
play I don't

2808
02:12:48,030 --> 02:12:44,260
all the hundreds and hundreds of cases

2809
02:12:51,300 --> 02:12:48,040
that I explored I'd only had four

2810
02:12:53,160 --> 02:12:51,310
abduction cases believe it or not in ten

2811
02:12:55,320 --> 02:12:53,170
years only four people came to me

2812
02:12:58,500 --> 02:12:55,330
two of them were definitely delusional

2813
02:13:00,570 --> 02:12:58,510
two of them I felt were very very good

2814
02:13:02,910 --> 02:13:00,580
cases which I write about in my book

2815
02:13:05,310 --> 02:13:02,920
secrets of the mysterious alley one was

2816
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:05,320
shown the location of gold treasure when

2817
02:13:09,330 --> 02:13:07,450
he asked who could connect and your

2818
02:13:12,210 --> 02:13:09,340
technology show me gold and they showed

2819
02:13:15,450 --> 02:13:12,220
them for a different one was a lost

2820
02:13:17,580 --> 02:13:15,460
robbery hoard one was a Spanish an

2821
02:13:20,720 --> 02:13:17,590
abandoned Spanish minor caved and has a

2822
02:13:23,310 --> 02:13:20,730
bunch of gold and the other was a gold

2823
02:13:26,580 --> 02:13:23,320
deposit that had yet to be discovered

2824
02:13:28,950 --> 02:13:26,590
and what was the other I I forget what

2825
02:13:30,479 --> 02:13:28,960
the fourth one was but that was a very

2826
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:30,489
interesting story and then I had another

2827
02:13:34,860 --> 02:13:32,530
a woman who claimed that she had and she

2828
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:34,870
showed me medical records the right as

2829
02:13:40,229 --> 02:13:36,730
she entered a third trimester pregnancy

2830
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:40,239
her pregnancy disappeared and her her

2831
02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:42,010
doctor said it was like she'd never been

2832
02:13:47,370 --> 02:13:45,970
pregnant you know just all the tests

2833
02:13:49,470 --> 02:13:47,380
that they get on her and there was it

2834
02:13:51,180 --> 02:13:49,480
was totally baffling I was actually

2835
02:13:56,190 --> 02:13:51,190
turned on to that case by the County

2836
02:13:58,410 --> 02:13:56,200
Sheriff's Department so you know I I

2837
02:14:01,860 --> 02:13:58,420
would think that if it was as widespread

2838
02:14:04,229 --> 02:14:01,870
as you're saying that in a hot play area

2839
02:14:05,880 --> 02:14:04,239
like I was investigating and the amount

2840
02:14:09,090 --> 02:14:05,890
of people that knew what I was doing and

2841
02:14:12,660 --> 02:14:09,100
I would have gotten more calls about you

2842
02:14:15,270 --> 02:14:12,670
know people's claims of visitations and

2843
02:14:17,310 --> 02:14:15,280
abductions actually there was one other

2844
02:14:19,890 --> 02:14:17,320
third one that was very good that it

2845
02:14:21,570 --> 02:14:19,900
coincided with an experience I had 20

2846
02:14:24,090 --> 02:14:21,580
minutes after I felt something walk into

2847
02:14:25,830 --> 02:14:24,100
my room and I couldn't really see it but

2848
02:14:28,350 --> 02:14:25,840
I definitely knew there was a group of

2849
02:14:30,060 --> 02:14:28,360
something there and I just felt it so

2850
02:14:31,530 --> 02:14:30,070
strongly and then I found out a couple

2851
02:14:34,470 --> 02:14:31,540
weeks later that my neighbor right

2852
02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:34,480
literally a stone's throw away had the

2853
02:14:37,890 --> 02:14:36,010
same thing happened to her except she

2854
02:14:44,700 --> 02:14:37,900
was able to see them all when they

2855
02:14:51,450 --> 02:14:44,710
walked in to her wall so hold on pump

2856
02:14:55,830 --> 02:14:51,460
the brakes Chris Chris O'Brien yes just

2857
02:15:00,030 --> 02:14:55,840
said that you had something he

2858
02:15:03,630 --> 02:15:00,040
and I think he said multiple beings in

2859
02:15:06,300 --> 02:15:03,640
your room he came right through the wall

2860
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:06,310
next to my head they walked around when

2861
02:15:10,830 --> 02:15:08,530
our down the side of my bed to them and

2862
02:15:14,220 --> 02:15:10,840
then curved around at one point one

2863
02:15:15,990 --> 02:15:14,230
stuck at faith but I could feel the

2864
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:16,000
presence of something just inches away

2865
02:15:20,550 --> 02:15:18,010
from me like something was looking in my

2866
02:15:22,290 --> 02:15:20,560
face but I couldn't see it but I can

2867
02:15:24,420 --> 02:15:22,300
feel it it was just it was one of these

2868
02:15:30,390 --> 02:15:24,430
when I've never felt that before ever

2869
02:15:32,850 --> 02:15:30,400
before then and I just told them hey if

2870
02:15:35,490 --> 02:15:32,860
you're not you know here too you know if

2871
02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:35,500
you're not positive if you're you know

2872
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:38,650
if you're not know if you're not here

2873
02:15:43,380 --> 02:15:40,810
with good intentions leave and they did

2874
02:15:45,030 --> 02:15:43,390
and I thought well I was weird and I

2875
02:15:47,070 --> 02:15:45,040
woke my girlfriend up I said can you

2876
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:47,080
sense something she goes no I don't

2877
02:15:52,170 --> 02:15:49,450
sense anything why did you wake me up I

2878
02:15:55,020 --> 02:15:52,180
said okay and she just rolled over and

2879
02:15:58,260 --> 02:15:55,030
was mad at me and I found out somebody

2880
02:16:00,960 --> 02:15:58,270
came to me about a week later and said

2881
02:16:02,310 --> 02:16:00,970
you know your neighbor there had

2882
02:16:05,250 --> 02:16:02,320
something really weird happened to her

2883
02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:05,260
in her little five little boy she told

2884
02:16:08,670 --> 02:16:07,090
me about it she doesn't want anybody to

2885
02:16:10,500 --> 02:16:08,680
know but I think you should talk to her

2886
02:16:12,750 --> 02:16:10,510
and so I took me about a week to get her

2887
02:16:15,390 --> 02:16:12,760
to admit something happened and then

2888
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:15,400
when I talked to her she showed me her

2889
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:16,810
notes that she written down in her

2890
02:16:20,730 --> 02:16:18,880
journal and she said yeah they when they

2891
02:16:22,910 --> 02:16:20,740
came to her awhile they look like water

2892
02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:22,920
they were rippling like like they were

2893
02:16:27,780 --> 02:16:26,110
partially trans you know they weren't

2894
02:16:30,990 --> 02:16:27,790
they're partially manifested or like

2895
02:16:34,350 --> 02:16:31,000
water and then they they became totally

2896
02:16:35,820 --> 02:16:34,360
you know opaque and they ignored her and

2897
02:16:37,380 --> 02:16:35,830
they went and they circled around the

2898
02:16:39,480 --> 02:16:37,390
crib where a little five-year-old boy

2899
02:16:43,020 --> 02:16:39,490
was and she was really scared and she

2900
02:16:45,480 --> 02:16:43,030
started you know blessing her son and

2901
02:16:47,670 --> 02:16:45,490
herself and telling them if your

2902
02:16:49,740 --> 02:16:47,680
nautical light please leave Auto blah

2903
02:16:51,330 --> 02:16:49,750
and they did and they went right back

2904
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:51,340
out through the wall the same way they

2905
02:16:55,320 --> 02:16:53,530
came in and I said well what's a date

2906
02:16:57,780 --> 02:16:55,330
there and she's really the date and the

2907
02:16:59,550 --> 02:16:57,790
time and I'm like wow that was 20

2908
02:17:01,740 --> 02:16:59,560
minutes after I had something happen I

2909
02:17:04,890 --> 02:17:01,750
wrote about it in my play my first book

2910
02:17:07,130 --> 02:17:04,900
the mysterious Alex that was where and

2911
02:17:10,169 --> 02:17:07,140
she was married to a very famous

2912
02:17:16,319 --> 02:17:10,179
psychologist as well Artie Lange

2913
02:17:18,839 --> 02:17:16,329
so no I'm not just some housewife that

2914
02:17:23,669 --> 02:17:18,849
needs some attention she was a very very

2915
02:17:25,439 --> 02:17:23,679
smart educated freaked out individual

2916
02:17:27,809 --> 02:17:25,449
who had never even thought these things

2917
02:17:29,639 --> 02:17:27,819
were possible and a little boy was

2918
02:17:32,849 --> 02:17:29,649
predicting earthquakes it was an

2919
02:17:34,290 --> 02:17:32,859
interesting interesting story and she

2920
02:17:36,629 --> 02:17:34,300
definitely got the sense that they're

2921
02:17:38,969 --> 02:17:36,639
interested in him and she was just kind

2922
02:17:40,620 --> 02:17:38,979
of there and normally she wouldn't be

2923
02:17:42,299 --> 02:17:40,630
sleeping in his room but he had

2924
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:42,309
nightmares or something so she was in

2925
02:17:49,830 --> 02:17:47,050
there very interesting case but wouldn't

2926
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:49,840
call an abduction but it was definitely

2927
02:17:57,000 --> 02:17:54,010
left a kind of an impression on me

2928
02:17:59,189 --> 02:17:57,010
because I I was sure something came in I

2929
02:18:03,049 --> 02:17:59,199
actually thought I could see it at one

2930
02:18:08,250 --> 02:18:03,059
point the shoulders arm it was like

2931
02:18:11,609 --> 02:18:08,260
reflections off of almost like a like

2932
02:18:15,029 --> 02:18:11,619
the predator and the movie predator yeah

2933
02:18:17,399 --> 02:18:15,039
yeah yeah kind of a flashing mirror sort

2934
02:18:18,509 --> 02:18:17,409
of sparkly feeling to the air but you

2935
02:18:23,639 --> 02:18:18,519
couldn't really see anything and I

2936
02:18:25,830 --> 02:18:23,649
thought I saw a shoulder go ahead anyway

2937
02:18:26,700 --> 02:18:25,840
yeah I never had anything like that

2938
02:18:29,219 --> 02:18:26,710
happen before

2939
02:18:32,129 --> 02:18:29,229
yeah same thing the same thing with me

2940
02:18:34,200 --> 02:18:32,139
you know I had one you know very similar

2941
02:18:36,809 --> 02:18:34,210
to two that happen to me never happened

2942
02:18:38,459 --> 02:18:36,819
again but the difference was I didn't

2943
02:18:41,549 --> 02:18:38,469
talk about it all right I didn't tell

2944
02:18:43,679 --> 02:18:41,559
anybody and and and I still I'm

2945
02:18:45,809 --> 02:18:43,689
uncomfortable with it and that I really

2946
02:18:47,549 --> 02:18:45,819
don't want to know I don't want to know

2947
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:47,559
what happened I don't want to know who

2948
02:18:51,929 --> 02:18:48,010
it was

2949
02:18:54,120 --> 02:18:51,939
I I don't want to regress I don't want

2950
02:18:59,580 --> 02:18:54,130
to know if I was abducted No

2951
02:19:02,099 --> 02:18:59,590
you know I had personal encounter which

2952
02:19:03,620 --> 02:19:02,109
I mean they they follow me around my

2953
02:19:06,899 --> 02:19:03,630
neighborhood it's 3:00 in the morning

2954
02:19:09,269 --> 02:19:06,909
that's a whole other thing that that's

2955
02:19:11,069 --> 02:19:09,279
why I'm interested in the subject I mean

2956
02:19:14,609 --> 02:19:11,079
I've always been interested because I

2957
02:19:17,910 --> 02:19:14,619
know this stuff no it's not it's not you

2958
02:19:23,070 --> 02:19:17,920
know it's not like you and me it's

2959
02:19:25,709 --> 02:19:23,080
definitely okay I'm

2960
02:19:28,500 --> 02:19:25,719
okay I'm gonna keep you for overtime I

2961
02:19:32,010 --> 02:19:28,510
want to hear about this this this

2962
02:19:33,419 --> 02:19:32,020
encounter when you were seven so just

2963
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:33,429
stand by we're gonna take a break here

2964
02:19:41,910 --> 02:19:39,010
but did you say Artie Lange yeah V Artie

2965
02:19:44,850 --> 02:19:41,920
Lange yes really

2966
02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:44,860
yeah his last wife and he had a child

2967
02:19:53,070 --> 02:19:48,730
before a guy when he was much older and

2968
02:19:53,761 --> 02:19:53,080
she lived in crest oh wow okay yeah

2969
02:19:55,080 --> 02:19:53,771
that's

2970
02:19:58,080 --> 02:19:55,090
I probably shouldn't said that I mean

2971
02:20:00,090 --> 02:19:58,090
it's been 25 years 20 years so you know

2972
02:20:03,390 --> 02:20:00,100
maybe she'll be okay with it but yeah

2973
02:20:05,761 --> 02:20:03,400
was a son Charlie Wow Wow okay let's

2974
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take a break right here and when we come

2975
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back Chris on what I've got to know what

2976
02:20:12,150 --> 02:20:10,540
happened when you were seven and so save

2977
02:20:13,470 --> 02:20:12,160
all of that we'll do that when we come

2978
02:20:16,080 --> 02:20:13,480
back our guest tonight christopher

2979
02:20:20,490 --> 02:20:16,090
o'brien and i've this the thing with

2980
02:20:22,380 --> 02:20:20,500
chris chris and i a few years ago we sat

2981
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chris will remember this we sat and

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talked for about two or three hours in

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in 120 degrees you remember that and it

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was one of the best conversations I've

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ever had out of conference and it's

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happening right now

2987
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again I'm fade to black or guess and I

2988
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Christopher O'Brien I'm your host Amy

2989
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Church stay with us a little over time

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when we come back

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born this way KCRA radio.com this is kjc

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[Music]

3076
02:25:20,559 --> 02:25:18,670
welcome back fade to black coming host

3077
02:25:23,529 --> 02:25:20,569
immatures doing a little overtime with a

3078
02:25:26,229 --> 02:25:23,539
Chris O'Brien tonight and before we get

3079
02:25:28,210 --> 02:25:26,239
back to Chris I want to

3080
02:25:29,620 --> 02:25:28,220
well first off tomorrow night Johnny

3081
02:25:32,260 --> 02:25:29,630
Enoch is going to be here and then

3082
02:25:34,450 --> 02:25:32,270
Wednesday night Patrick wood is our

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02:25:36,450 --> 02:25:34,460
guest Thursday night is going to be open

3084
02:25:38,979 --> 02:25:36,460
lines Fator night with the Teresa Harris

3085
02:25:44,769 --> 02:25:38,989
here as well but I do want to in a

3086
02:25:48,760 --> 02:25:44,779
little PSA announcement la Marzulli lost

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his home and studio and facilities to

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02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:50,600
the fires here in Southern California

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02:25:55,870 --> 02:25:54,170
over the weekend and we posted up and

3090
02:26:01,269 --> 02:25:55,880
it's over on our Facebook page too as

3091
02:26:06,279 --> 02:26:01,279
well the GoFundMe to help out la and his

3092
02:26:07,779 --> 02:26:06,289
family and he is a host here on KCRA and

3093
02:26:09,489 --> 02:26:07,789
has his program he's a member of this

3094
02:26:13,059 --> 02:26:09,499
community and family for many years

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02:26:16,630 --> 02:26:13,069
and so anything that you can do to help

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LA and get through this very difficult

3097
02:26:22,389 --> 02:26:17,180
time

3098
02:26:25,590 --> 02:26:22,399
and also Chris has his GoFundMe too as

3099
02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:25,600
well and Chris everybody can they go to

3100
02:26:31,599 --> 02:26:29,810
you fo da p.com which we have the links

3101
02:26:35,649 --> 02:26:31,609
up at Jimmy Church radio but can they

3102
02:26:42,340 --> 02:26:35,659
can they help you out there no you have

3103
02:26:45,779 --> 02:26:42,350
to go to go fund me.com /u fo dat DAP

3104
02:26:51,099 --> 02:26:45,789
and then

3105
02:26:53,019 --> 02:26:51,109
- where - okay okay we're gonna get

3106
02:26:56,080 --> 02:26:53,029
those links up on Twitter so the links

3107
02:26:57,370 --> 02:26:56,090
for the GoFundMe are not over at the UFO

3108
02:26:59,529 --> 02:26:57,380
da P website

3109
02:27:01,660 --> 02:26:59,539
no that's it's a placeholder until next

3110
02:27:03,460 --> 02:27:01,670
week when the psychic oh I got you I got

3111
02:27:05,529 --> 02:27:03,470
you okay all right so we'll get the

3112
02:27:08,349 --> 02:27:05,539
links up for your GoFundMe here in

3113
02:27:10,330 --> 02:27:08,359
Twitter right now and okay so what

3114
02:27:12,880 --> 02:27:10,340
happened when you were seven this is

3115
02:27:14,380 --> 02:27:12,890
what's really funny I was just talking

3116
02:27:17,769 --> 02:27:14,390
about our conversation that we had in

3117
02:27:19,149 --> 02:27:17,779
the Sun that one day and you never know

3118
02:27:21,010 --> 02:27:19,159
I'm just gonna tell the audience a

3119
02:27:22,059 --> 02:27:21,020
little slice of this conversation so

3120
02:27:27,160 --> 02:27:22,069
Chris and I are sitting there talking

3121
02:27:27,819 --> 02:27:27,170
and we find out that we have a mutual

3122
02:27:36,081 --> 02:27:27,829
friend

3123
02:27:38,810 --> 02:27:36,091
I have known for 30 35 years and and

3124
02:27:41,331 --> 02:27:38,820
Chris and you just never know when you

3125
02:27:44,631 --> 02:27:41,341
sit down how small the world is right

3126
02:27:48,531 --> 02:27:44,641
and that's a small world and I do owe

3127
02:27:52,281 --> 02:27:48,541
you a photograph of our mutual friend

3128
02:27:54,890 --> 02:27:52,291
and I will hey can I go public that he

3129
02:27:58,100 --> 02:27:54,900
would kill me he would kill you too as

3130
02:28:02,930 --> 02:27:58,110
well but nonetheless it's a small one

3131
02:28:04,940 --> 02:28:02,940
can't wake up that's my fear that's my

3132
02:28:08,180 --> 02:28:04,950
fear cuz he said to you such a talented

3133
02:28:13,701 --> 02:28:08,190
and and very cool person but anyway what

3134
02:28:18,251 --> 02:28:13,711
happened when you were seven are I woke

3135
02:28:21,321 --> 02:28:18,261
up I had a bedroom in the basement

3136
02:28:24,171 --> 02:28:21,331
where did this happen this happened in

3137
02:28:26,211 --> 02:28:24,181
one of the let's put it this way if I

3138
02:28:28,940 --> 02:28:26,221
had my paper out today that I had back

3139
02:28:30,440 --> 02:28:28,950
then a couple years later I'd be Bill

3140
02:28:31,011 --> 02:28:30,450
Gates the paper boy it happened in

3141
02:28:33,980 --> 02:28:31,021
Medinah

3142
02:28:39,470 --> 02:28:33,990
on the lake in Bellevue okay Washington

3143
02:28:44,140 --> 02:28:39,480
got you okay and so anyway I'm in my

3144
02:28:47,270 --> 02:28:44,150
wake up and I see I'm immediately I see

3145
02:28:49,491 --> 02:28:47,280
this glittering light that was going up

3146
02:28:52,161 --> 02:28:49,501
and down like you know two foot wand

3147
02:28:54,321 --> 02:28:52,171
there were three of them and I'm like

3148
02:28:56,871 --> 02:28:54,331
what what is this and they're like kind

3149
02:28:59,690 --> 02:28:56,881
of at the side of my bed and then curved

3150
02:29:02,180 --> 02:28:59,700
around towards the foot of my bed and

3151
02:29:04,761 --> 02:29:02,190
then as my eyes start to adjust to the

3152
02:29:06,861 --> 02:29:04,771
light I realized that that there's the

3153
02:29:09,531 --> 02:29:06,871
three hands hold in the middle of these

3154
02:29:12,171 --> 02:29:09,541
wands with this colored light going up

3155
02:29:15,621 --> 02:29:12,181
and down like glittering and I could see

3156
02:29:16,791 --> 02:29:15,631
from the glow of these wands of spheres

3157
02:29:19,100 --> 02:29:16,801
as I called them later

3158
02:29:23,321 --> 02:29:19,110
I could see the outline of these

3159
02:29:28,341 --> 02:29:23,331
extremely skinny you're like I mean arms

3160
02:29:31,430 --> 02:29:28,351
like my thumb legs like no two thumbs

3161
02:29:33,111 --> 02:29:31,440
with I mean I called them stickman they

3162
02:29:35,241 --> 02:29:33,121
were incredibly skinny there was three

3163
02:29:37,251 --> 02:29:35,251
of them they look like it was a fourth

3164
02:29:40,161 --> 02:29:37,261
one maybe a taller one in the back was

3165
02:29:42,770 --> 02:29:40,171
hiding in the dark I really couldn't see

3166
02:29:43,650 --> 02:29:42,780
much detail of course the first thing I

3167
02:29:48,120 --> 02:29:43,660
did was

3168
02:29:50,160 --> 02:29:48,130
with cover myself up with my covers all

3169
02:29:52,230 --> 02:29:50,170
right put them back up to look to see if

3170
02:29:53,700 --> 02:29:52,240
I was dreaming or not and when I

3171
02:29:55,980 --> 02:29:53,710
realized that they were real

3172
02:29:59,190 --> 02:29:55,990
I just dashed out of my room I wasn't

3173
02:30:01,290 --> 02:29:59,200
frozen I wasn't you know immobilized and

3174
02:30:03,270 --> 02:30:01,300
I dashed out of my door I went up the

3175
02:30:05,520 --> 02:30:03,280
ten steps to the land you know right at

3176
02:30:07,650 --> 02:30:05,530
the front door I turned around to go up

3177
02:30:10,290 --> 02:30:07,660
the last four steps to the part of the

3178
02:30:13,760 --> 02:30:10,300
house and my parents bedroom was and

3179
02:30:16,740 --> 02:30:13,770
they were at the top of the stairs and I

3180
02:30:18,719 --> 02:30:16,750
didn't I didn't know if it was the same

3181
02:30:20,969 --> 02:30:18,729
group or whether it was a different

3182
02:30:24,060 --> 02:30:20,979
group but it was the same three little

3183
02:30:27,270 --> 02:30:24,070
guys the same height as I was holding

3184
02:30:32,940 --> 02:30:27,280
these these glittering Spears I call

3185
02:30:35,160 --> 02:30:32,950
them so I ran to the kitchen and I I

3186
02:30:37,139 --> 02:30:35,170
grabbed the door to go out and I forgot

3187
02:30:40,440 --> 02:30:37,149
my dad and just put this green door on

3188
02:30:43,350 --> 02:30:40,450
and I ran into the screen door this is

3189
02:30:45,889 --> 02:30:43,360
in the early spring just before my

3190
02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:45,899
seventh birthday I think I was six and

3191
02:30:51,840 --> 02:30:49,930
you know six and like 52 weeks is comes

3192
02:30:54,210 --> 02:30:51,850
in or 51 weeks with my birthday was

3193
02:30:57,420 --> 02:30:54,220
right around the corner so I got knocked

3194
02:31:00,090 --> 02:30:57,430
down and this is when I really knew I

3195
02:31:02,370 --> 02:31:00,100
was awake I had a bump little bump on my

3196
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:02,380
head and I could see them all the way

3197
02:31:06,389 --> 02:31:04,090
through the kitchen at the other end of

3198
02:31:08,250 --> 02:31:06,399
the kitchen and at this point there was

3199
02:31:10,889 --> 02:31:08,260
enough kind of residual white where I

3200
02:31:14,820 --> 02:31:10,899
could really get a much better sense of

3201
02:31:17,450 --> 02:31:14,830
them and and see how impossibly skinny

3202
02:31:20,690 --> 02:31:17,460
they were they were a pasty kind of

3203
02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:20,700
off-white kind of a dirty white color

3204
02:31:26,310 --> 02:31:23,290
they have large heads I don't remember

3205
02:31:28,830 --> 02:31:26,320
there are blank that out for some reason

3206
02:31:32,250 --> 02:31:28,840
I don't remember the shape of this rod

3207
02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:32,260
just kind of strange anyway I wanted to

3208
02:31:37,889 --> 02:31:35,770
run around to my parents room for some

3209
02:31:39,420 --> 02:31:37,899
reason they either blocked me or

3210
02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:39,430
something happened and I ended up going

3211
02:31:43,530 --> 02:31:41,770
down the driveway through the hedge to

3212
02:31:45,630 --> 02:31:43,540
go to the the Richards who live next

3213
02:31:47,639 --> 02:31:45,640
door the banging on their door and see

3214
02:31:49,920 --> 02:31:47,649
if I could use their phone to call call

3215
02:31:52,469 --> 02:31:49,930
back to the house and nobody answered

3216
02:31:54,480 --> 02:31:52,479
the door and so I ran out to the next

3217
02:31:58,250 --> 02:31:54,490
neighbor and they had a big huge lawn

3218
02:32:00,740 --> 02:31:58,260
and there were Street by the

3219
02:32:02,809 --> 02:32:00,750
between those Alon and my neighbor's

3220
02:32:04,130 --> 02:32:02,819
driveway and so I just split out in the

3221
02:32:06,380 --> 02:32:04,140
middle of the wine with plenty of elbow

3222
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:06,390
room and I kind of waited to see if they

3223
02:32:10,189 --> 02:32:08,010
would come see the lights I could get a

3224
02:32:12,320 --> 02:32:10,199
really good look at him and this is the

3225
02:32:15,500 --> 02:32:12,330
weird part of this this is you know the

3226
02:32:16,880 --> 02:32:15,510
trickster kind of the part that you know

3227
02:32:18,740 --> 02:32:16,890
when you tell people this they don't

3228
02:32:20,960 --> 02:32:18,750
they go okay well it had to have been a

3229
02:32:22,609 --> 02:32:20,970
dream but they approached the light and

3230
02:32:24,559 --> 02:32:22,619
right when they got to where the light

3231
02:32:26,479 --> 02:32:24,569
was splaining in the circle on the

3232
02:32:27,050 --> 02:32:26,489
ground they turned sideways and had no

3233
02:32:30,620 --> 02:32:27,060
depth

3234
02:32:34,309 --> 02:32:30,630
they were like paper their relation to D

3235
02:32:36,139 --> 02:32:34,319
they were flat to D exactly and they

3236
02:32:37,580 --> 02:32:36,149
turn sideways and they came through the

3237
02:32:40,609 --> 02:32:37,590
light I could see these thin lines

3238
02:32:43,939 --> 02:32:40,619
coming through the light and I just I I

3239
02:32:46,099 --> 02:32:43,949
became terrified I ran around the

3240
02:32:47,540 --> 02:32:46,109
Barkers house banged on their door last

3241
02:32:50,359 --> 02:32:47,550
thing I remember is the porch light

3242
02:32:54,920 --> 02:32:50,369
coming on and then my sister found me

3243
02:32:56,840 --> 02:32:54,930
four five houses away on a deck she said

3244
02:32:59,630 --> 02:32:56,850
she looked for me for about 20 minutes I

3245
02:33:02,120 --> 02:32:59,640
think it was longer the Barkers had seen

3246
02:33:03,679 --> 02:33:02,130
the outside when they went to open the

3247
02:33:05,540 --> 02:33:03,689
door wasn't there so they called my

3248
02:33:08,380 --> 02:33:05,550
house my sister answered the phone she

3249
02:33:12,290 --> 02:33:08,390
started looking for me she found me

3250
02:33:13,910 --> 02:33:12,300
finally across the street back down the

3251
02:33:16,040 --> 02:33:13,920
other direction

3252
02:33:19,010 --> 02:33:16,050
so I you know I don't know how much time

3253
02:33:22,519 --> 02:33:19,020
I was that I'm missing

3254
02:33:24,139 --> 02:33:22,529
let's say but it's between 40 minutes

3255
02:33:27,229 --> 02:33:24,149
and 20 minutes and 40 minutes I'm like

3256
02:33:28,519 --> 02:33:27,239
that my sister took me home she said I

3257
02:33:32,510 --> 02:33:28,529
was absolutely terrified

3258
02:33:34,399 --> 02:33:32,520
I wouldn't go down to my room I said the

3259
02:33:36,170 --> 02:33:34,409
stick man mystic man and she thought I

3260
02:33:39,290 --> 02:33:36,180
was having a nightmare I'd never sleep

3261
02:33:41,359 --> 02:33:39,300
walk before since and she said I was so

3262
02:33:44,000 --> 02:33:41,369
freaked out when I fell asleep in the

3263
02:33:47,660 --> 02:33:44,010
bed with her I tried to nurse her she

3264
02:33:51,290 --> 02:33:47,670
said that's how terrified it was which

3265
02:33:54,679 --> 02:33:51,300
is really strange for me that was kind

3266
02:33:55,880 --> 02:33:54,689
of a you know it's a macho little kid

3267
02:34:00,670 --> 02:33:55,890
you know I'm really into sports and

3268
02:34:03,019 --> 02:34:00,680
everything even at six it's the most

3269
02:34:06,139 --> 02:34:03,029
incredible thing that's ever happened to

3270
02:34:09,380 --> 02:34:06,149
me I remember like is it yesterday it's

3271
02:34:11,451 --> 02:34:09,390
just it's searing into my brain years

3272
02:34:13,640 --> 02:34:11,461
later I found out John keel and

3273
02:34:15,440 --> 02:34:13,650
get it to the other cases with the exact

3274
02:34:18,381 --> 02:34:15,450
same description and the towns around my

3275
02:34:21,711 --> 02:34:18,391
town and I think lay around Lake

3276
02:34:23,421 --> 02:34:21,721
Sammamish Houghton and Redmond there

3277
02:34:24,980 --> 02:34:23,431
were three other cases and in fact in

3278
02:34:28,341 --> 02:34:24,990
one of the cases the kid called them

3279
02:34:32,421 --> 02:34:28,351
stickman I think this is an operation

3280
02:34:35,060 --> 02:34:32,431
Trojan horse the peel book so you you

3281
02:34:37,821 --> 02:34:35,070
know i I've always known that there's

3282
02:34:39,801 --> 02:34:37,831
something here that's living here now

3283
02:34:42,890 --> 02:34:39,811
and it's probably as stressful as we are

3284
02:34:45,951 --> 02:34:42,900
right I have a suspicion that we have

3285
02:34:48,291 --> 02:34:45,961
yet to define this interacting with us

3286
02:34:51,470 --> 02:34:48,301
on some level and you know whether

3287
02:34:53,241 --> 02:34:51,480
they're crypto terrestrials ultra

3288
02:34:55,281 --> 02:34:53,251
terrestrials if you will or meta

3289
02:34:58,251 --> 02:34:55,291
terrestrial dimensional or their other

3290
02:35:00,350 --> 02:34:58,261
tenants and on earth you know I really

3291
02:35:03,230 --> 02:35:00,360
don't know I just I didn't see any craft

3292
02:35:05,571 --> 02:35:03,240
um I have no reason to think that they

3293
02:35:08,571 --> 02:35:05,581
came from you know from outer space

3294
02:35:10,761 --> 02:35:08,581
let's say I was not exposed to sci-fi at

3295
02:35:13,821 --> 02:35:10,771
that age I wasn't allowed to watch TV I

3296
02:35:15,890 --> 02:35:13,831
let a very young boy stirred life when I

3297
02:35:19,821 --> 02:35:15,900
was young my parents are very protective

3298
02:35:22,881 --> 02:35:19,831
of outside influences and stuff and then

3299
02:35:25,011 --> 02:35:22,891
this you know course they they said oh

3300
02:35:27,111 --> 02:35:25,021
you were just having a nightmare and

3301
02:35:29,511 --> 02:35:27,121
sleepwalking well I said what about the

3302
02:35:34,161 --> 02:35:29,521
pump in my head I remember running into

3303
02:35:37,401 --> 02:35:34,171
the screen door so you know I've always

3304
02:35:40,041 --> 02:35:37,411
known I've always had this whole

3305
02:35:42,321 --> 02:35:40,051
fascination with all these subjects I've

3306
02:35:43,970 --> 02:35:42,331
been a closeted UFO buff for years and I

3307
02:35:46,581 --> 02:35:43,980
lived in New York City of course I could

3308
02:35:48,770 --> 02:35:46,591
never own me a few really close friends

3309
02:35:50,390 --> 02:35:48,780
I would talk to about this stuff and

3310
02:35:53,930 --> 02:35:50,400
when I finally moved out west and then

3311
02:35:56,720 --> 02:35:53,940
landed in the paranormal Disneyland

3312
02:36:02,390 --> 02:35:56,730
that's when I really was able to really

3313
02:36:04,701 --> 02:36:02,400
you know exercise you know my my just

3314
02:36:06,201 --> 02:36:04,711
fascination you know to the extent of

3315
02:36:08,631 --> 02:36:06,211
writing books and interviewing people

3316
02:36:11,871 --> 02:36:08,641
and putting two hundred thousand miles

3317
02:36:14,901 --> 02:36:11,881
up my truck in six years you know and

3318
02:36:18,470 --> 02:36:14,911
see this is this is the best part of

3319
02:36:21,890 --> 02:36:18,480
your experience though when you when

3320
02:36:24,420 --> 02:36:21,900
you're talking with somebody that that

3321
02:36:27,689 --> 02:36:24,430
has something that they want to share

3322
02:36:30,569 --> 02:36:27,699
you know you're going to listen you know

3323
02:36:33,210 --> 02:36:30,579
where it goes from there but you you've

3324
02:36:35,340 --> 02:36:33,220
had your that that experience right

3325
02:36:38,670 --> 02:36:35,350
there and especially at that age

3326
02:36:40,260 --> 02:36:38,680
well we think life I would not be even

3327
02:36:42,420 --> 02:36:40,270
close to the person I am now

3328
02:36:44,189 --> 02:36:42,430
if that hadn't happened you know in a

3329
02:36:47,340 --> 02:36:44,199
way and somebody comes up to you and

3330
02:36:50,969 --> 02:36:47,350
tells you you know or or better yet

3331
02:36:53,399 --> 02:36:50,979
right somebody is talking to somebody

3332
02:36:56,219 --> 02:36:53,409
else you're an observer and you're

3333
02:36:58,290 --> 02:36:56,229
listening to somebody tell a story that

3334
02:37:00,059 --> 02:36:58,300
is similar to yours right and you're

3335
02:37:02,969 --> 02:37:00,069
listening and the person that they're

3336
02:37:08,399 --> 02:37:02,979
telling it to is dismissing it and and

3337
02:37:09,960 --> 02:37:08,409
you know you know and and that's the

3338
02:37:11,819 --> 02:37:09,970
thing there are people out there when

3339
02:37:15,300 --> 02:37:11,829
they that are gonna listen to this

3340
02:37:16,800 --> 02:37:15,310
broadcast and and listen to this word

3341
02:37:19,040 --> 02:37:16,810
there's gonna be those out there that

3342
02:37:21,359 --> 02:37:19,050
are going you know what man Chris's is

3343
02:37:23,790 --> 02:37:21,369
you know I'm not I'm not buying into

3344
02:37:26,279 --> 02:37:23,800
this then there are the others that are

3345
02:37:28,590 --> 02:37:26,289
gonna listen Chris and go you know what

3346
02:37:30,870 --> 02:37:28,600
that same thing happened to me you know

3347
02:37:33,989 --> 02:37:30,880
and and I need to hear this from Chris

3348
02:37:35,699 --> 02:37:33,999
so I know that I'm not crazy and I'm

3349
02:37:38,099 --> 02:37:35,709
never talking about it I've kept it

3350
02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:38,109
inside but that's the importance of to

3351
02:37:42,899 --> 02:37:40,720
have you shared that I've never I've

3352
02:37:45,989 --> 02:37:42,909
never heard you speak about this before

3353
02:37:49,109 --> 02:37:45,999
I'm you know I didn't I didn't talk

3354
02:37:51,139 --> 02:37:49,119
about this stuff for a long time with no

3355
02:37:54,090 --> 02:37:51,149
other than real close friends

3356
02:37:57,179 --> 02:37:54,100
girlfriends and people I'd known for

3357
02:38:00,000 --> 02:37:57,189
decades who knew me well enough it

3358
02:38:02,609 --> 02:38:00,010
wasn't until I really started getting

3359
02:38:05,479 --> 02:38:02,619
publicly involved in this up and I had a

3360
02:38:09,469 --> 02:38:05,489
six hours of missing time out in Utah

3361
02:38:12,059 --> 02:38:09,479
just before I moved to crest stone that

3362
02:38:15,029 --> 02:38:12,069
kind of reminded me that there's you

3363
02:38:17,880 --> 02:38:15,039
know possibly I'm one of those people

3364
02:38:20,399 --> 02:38:17,890
that attracts this type of stuff because

3365
02:38:22,830 --> 02:38:20,409
I at that point I'd had a couple of real

3366
02:38:25,649 --> 02:38:22,840
good sightings one that was interactive

3367
02:38:28,710 --> 02:38:25,659
a group of us were able to interact with

3368
02:38:30,420 --> 02:38:28,720
life in the sky and trace out lay on the

3369
02:38:33,029 --> 02:38:30,430
field and trace out shapes and they

3370
02:38:35,580 --> 02:38:33,039
would mirror them in the sky was another

3371
02:38:38,070 --> 02:38:35,590
really interesting in New Paltz right

3372
02:38:40,050 --> 02:38:38,080
around the time with the fever

3373
02:38:42,059 --> 02:38:40,060
and she started having these experiences

3374
02:38:44,219 --> 02:38:42,069
in New Paltz

3375
02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:44,229
so you know I have had some other

3376
02:38:47,849 --> 02:38:46,450
experiences too with people that have

3377
02:38:51,059 --> 02:38:47,859
always reminded me that I'm not crazy

3378
02:38:54,660 --> 02:38:51,069
that there is something to this stuff

3379
02:38:56,400 --> 02:38:54,670
but I was very reluctant just like being

3380
02:38:58,190 --> 02:38:56,410
funded by Laurance Rockefeller I was

3381
02:39:01,710 --> 02:38:58,200
very reluctant to tell people about that

3382
02:39:03,690 --> 02:39:01,720
for a lot of years you know there's just

3383
02:39:07,050 --> 02:39:03,700
certain things that you don't want

3384
02:39:09,630 --> 02:39:07,060
people to hear that and then call your

3385
02:39:11,760 --> 02:39:09,640
credibility or your integrity or your

3386
02:39:14,880 --> 02:39:11,770
truthfulness or your veracity and the

3387
02:39:17,309 --> 02:39:14,890
question and you got to a point you know

3388
02:39:19,260 --> 02:39:17,319
in the late 90s early 2000s well I

3389
02:39:21,990 --> 02:39:19,270
didn't really care anymore I just felt

3390
02:39:24,020 --> 02:39:22,000
so strongly that I had to release that

3391
02:39:26,700 --> 02:39:24,030
up because I was getting so many

3392
02:39:28,650 --> 02:39:26,710
questions about the abduction phenomenon

3393
02:39:30,960 --> 02:39:28,660
and I was getting so many people are

3394
02:39:34,320 --> 02:39:30,970
talking about contactees and experiences

3395
02:39:36,330 --> 02:39:34,330
and and strange experiences and and

3396
02:39:37,740 --> 02:39:36,340
people constantly asking me and I would

3397
02:39:39,179 --> 02:39:37,750
say yes and then I would say well I

3398
02:39:42,270 --> 02:39:39,189
don't really want to talk about it and I

3399
02:39:44,910 --> 02:39:42,280
finally just you know one day it was at

3400
02:39:46,020 --> 02:39:44,920
a conference - somebody asked me and I

3401
02:39:47,610 --> 02:39:46,030
said well that's the first time I've

3402
02:39:49,800 --> 02:39:47,620
ever actually told it told this in

3403
02:39:51,690 --> 02:39:49,810
public but yes you know and I told him

3404
02:39:54,150 --> 02:39:51,700
the story it's one you know that and

3405
02:39:56,130 --> 02:39:54,160
getting my three front piece to front

3406
02:39:58,860 --> 02:39:56,140
piece knocked out by a line drive and

3407
02:40:03,660 --> 02:39:58,870
baseball the following year crashing on

3408
02:40:05,760 --> 02:40:03,670
my bike real bad in a school of huge

3409
02:40:07,620 --> 02:40:05,770
carp I mean there were certain things in

3410
02:40:11,040 --> 02:40:07,630
my childhood that really that I remember

3411
02:40:13,920 --> 02:40:11,050
really well but nothing compares to the

3412
02:40:17,940 --> 02:40:13,930
memory of of that night that was being

3413
02:40:19,650 --> 02:40:17,950
most freaky thing than anyone could ever

3414
02:40:23,580 --> 02:40:19,660
experience I mean it like I said it

3415
02:40:27,960 --> 02:40:23,590
really changed my life there I think

3416
02:40:30,450 --> 02:40:27,970
also that we're starting to the the way

3417
02:40:34,710 --> 02:40:30,460
that we looked you know going back to

3418
02:40:37,290 --> 02:40:34,720
say 1947 and and forward the way that we

3419
02:40:41,340 --> 02:40:37,300
looked at UFOs we didn't understand the

3420
02:40:45,090 --> 02:40:41,350
physics of of everything the size of the

3421
02:40:50,739 --> 02:40:45,100
universe we didn't have a real clue it

3422
02:40:54,199 --> 02:40:50,749
in 1929 right 18 17 years before

3423
02:40:56,169 --> 02:40:54,209
Roswell and Kenneth Arnold there was

3424
02:41:00,739 --> 02:40:56,179
only a couple of galaxies out there

3425
02:41:05,599 --> 02:41:00,749
right we didn't understand what what was

3426
02:41:07,189 --> 02:41:05,609
around us or or gravity or early we did

3427
02:41:12,079 --> 02:41:07,199
we just didn't understand it today we

3428
02:41:15,760 --> 02:41:12,089
now in in less than a lifetime ago now

3429
02:41:21,109 --> 02:41:15,770
we understand that there is 400 billion

3430
02:41:24,590 --> 02:41:21,119
galaxies all right 400 billion in 1929

3431
02:41:28,429 --> 02:41:24,600
there was one the Milky Way ours right

3432
02:41:30,499 --> 02:41:28,439
and and the way that we looked at UFOs

3433
02:41:33,529 --> 02:41:30,509
was an innocent you know we're trying to

3434
02:41:35,840 --> 02:41:33,539
figure things out today with with

3435
02:41:40,639 --> 02:41:35,850
quantum mechanics and string theory and

3436
02:41:43,159 --> 02:41:40,649
and and the the possibility of parallel

3437
02:41:46,099 --> 02:41:43,169
worlds or interdimensional the many

3438
02:41:48,260 --> 02:41:46,109
world many worlds right all of it we we

3439
02:41:51,769 --> 02:41:48,270
have a scientific foundation of looking

3440
02:41:56,050 --> 02:41:51,779
at the possibility of things were the

3441
02:42:00,469 --> 02:41:56,060
crypto world or Bigfoot or UFOs or your

3442
02:42:03,800 --> 02:42:00,479
two-dimensional stick guys right that we

3443
02:42:08,659 --> 02:42:03,810
have a billion earth-like planets in our

3444
02:42:11,300 --> 02:42:08,669
galaxy alone alone and and and the

3445
02:42:16,189 --> 02:42:11,310
majority of those are a billion years

3446
02:42:18,559 --> 02:42:16,199
older than our Sun in the Milky Way in

3447
02:42:23,329 --> 02:42:18,569
our Milky Way the age of the Milky Way

3448
02:42:25,909 --> 02:42:23,339
is you know it's a phenomena it's old so

3449
02:42:29,329 --> 02:42:25,919
yeah it's we didn't understand these

3450
02:42:31,039 --> 02:42:29,339
things just less than a lifetime ago you

3451
02:42:34,639 --> 02:42:31,049
know so yeah I think we're starting to

3452
02:42:36,379 --> 02:42:34,649
understand with science the possibility

3453
02:42:38,629 --> 02:42:36,389
of what is actually going on you're

3454
02:42:42,319 --> 02:42:38,639
absolutely right a two-dimensional flat

3455
02:42:45,199 --> 02:42:42,329
stick figure guy waving a wand could

3456
02:42:46,939 --> 02:42:45,209
that be et or off-planet could be is it

3457
02:42:49,129 --> 02:42:46,949
something that just came into our

3458
02:42:50,029 --> 02:42:49,139
frequency and you were able to see it

3459
02:42:52,459 --> 02:42:50,039
for a second

3460
02:42:55,809 --> 02:42:52,469
right they could be walking around is

3461
02:42:58,939 --> 02:42:55,819
right now they follow me they follow me

3462
02:43:01,699 --> 02:42:58,949
to to neighbors houses well at least at

3463
02:43:03,050 --> 02:43:01,709
least one neighbor's house when I went

3464
02:43:04,070 --> 02:43:03,060
around the corner and pounded on the

3465
02:43:05,960 --> 02:43:04,080
second neighbor's door I don't

3466
02:43:07,880 --> 02:43:05,970
recall ever seeing them again after I

3467
02:43:12,200 --> 02:43:07,890
came around the corner but then I

3468
02:43:13,700 --> 02:43:12,210
disappeared so damn butts have the only

3469
02:43:19,790 --> 02:43:13,710
time by the way I meant to ask you that

3470
02:43:22,840 --> 02:43:19,800
was that the only contact I had an

3471
02:43:25,850 --> 02:43:22,850
experience just the the the night before

3472
02:43:27,470 --> 02:43:25,860
the first time I visited pressed on in

3473
02:43:31,060 --> 02:43:27,480
the San Luis Valley

3474
02:43:33,920 --> 02:43:31,070
I was out dinosaur fossil I mean in Utah

3475
02:43:36,200 --> 02:43:33,930
there was something running around we

3476
02:43:38,180 --> 02:43:36,210
heard these little pitter-patter stamps

3477
02:43:41,210 --> 02:43:38,190
outside our tent and my girlfriend I my

3478
02:43:42,801 --> 02:43:41,220
friend from Nikes they were terrified

3479
02:43:46,310 --> 02:43:42,811
and they were like blubbering

3480
02:43:48,770 --> 02:43:46,320
so I took the the Winchester and I went

3481
02:43:50,210 --> 02:43:48,780
outside and checked around and I didn't

3482
02:43:52,160 --> 02:43:50,220
really see anything I look for

3483
02:43:54,380 --> 02:43:52,170
footprints you know this is about a 1

3484
02:43:56,570 --> 02:43:54,390
o'clock at night and they had never been

3485
02:43:58,700 --> 02:43:56,580
in a place like south central Utah you

3486
02:44:03,890 --> 02:43:58,710
know this is kind of like being on a

3487
02:44:05,690 --> 02:44:03,900
basin but for the south and so I sat in

3488
02:44:08,120 --> 02:44:05,700
the car and I was gonna wait and see if

3489
02:44:09,440 --> 02:44:08,130
something showed up and I was all of us

3490
02:44:12,040 --> 02:44:09,450
and I said seeing something in the

3491
02:44:14,480 --> 02:44:12,050
rearview mirrors and it was like this

3492
02:44:16,040 --> 02:44:14,490
you know was just playing with ya look

3493
02:44:17,540 --> 02:44:16,050
on the left there and I'd see in the

3494
02:44:20,150 --> 02:44:17,550
right near and it would be in the center

3495
02:44:22,880 --> 02:44:20,160
mirror there was something running

3496
02:44:25,190 --> 02:44:22,890
around the back of the car and I could

3497
02:44:27,500 --> 02:44:25,200
just kind of barely check out movement

3498
02:44:28,610 --> 02:44:27,510
some light colored movement and so I

3499
02:44:32,330 --> 02:44:28,620
rolled down the window

3500
02:44:34,940 --> 02:44:32,340
I had a big mag light and I turned it on

3501
02:44:36,860 --> 02:44:34,950
and I shown it you know to the back of

3502
02:44:37,790 --> 02:44:36,870
the party if I could see anything and I

3503
02:44:41,570 --> 02:44:37,800
didn't say anything

3504
02:44:43,130 --> 02:44:41,580
so I turned and and faced forward you

3505
02:44:45,620 --> 02:44:43,140
know I was in the driver seat and the

3506
02:44:48,560 --> 02:44:45,630
next I blinked and it was seven o'clock

3507
02:44:52,100 --> 02:44:48,570
in the morning my light was still on

3508
02:44:54,470 --> 02:44:52,110
in my hand and I am super reckless

3509
02:44:56,360 --> 02:44:54,480
sleeper even in my own bed and I wake up

3510
02:44:59,330 --> 02:44:56,370
three or four times a night I I don't

3511
02:44:59,810 --> 02:44:59,340
have any memory I mean in the light was

3512
02:45:02,150 --> 02:44:59,820
still on

3513
02:45:07,370 --> 02:45:02,160
the battery should have wore up hours

3514
02:45:09,470 --> 02:45:07,380
before and that's freaked me out six

3515
02:45:12,940 --> 02:45:09,480
hours like five and a half six hours of

3516
02:45:15,060 --> 02:45:12,950
missing time just in a blink of an eye

3517
02:45:18,631 --> 02:45:15,070
Bernard I don't

3518
02:45:21,570 --> 02:45:18,641
a missing time story yet III will

3519
02:45:24,060 --> 02:45:21,580
eventually have one I don't have one you

3520
02:45:26,310 --> 02:45:24,070
know this is what this is what I find so

3521
02:45:29,610 --> 02:45:26,320
much fun this is this is the truth I

3522
02:45:31,501 --> 02:45:29,620
never saw an orb in my life right I

3523
02:45:33,301 --> 02:45:31,511
would see pictures and I would dismiss

3524
02:45:34,801 --> 02:45:33,311
it you know whenever man that's dust

3525
02:45:35,671 --> 02:45:34,811
that's this I say you know you're

3526
02:45:38,341 --> 02:45:35,681
imagining things

3527
02:45:42,810 --> 02:45:38,351
then I see my first orb that that

3528
02:45:47,640 --> 02:45:42,820
changes you right if a big yeah you know

3529
02:45:50,220 --> 02:45:47,650
a Bigfoot but just isn't what I see my

3530
02:45:54,180 --> 02:45:50,230
first big footprint and then I don't see

3531
02:45:56,761 --> 02:45:54,190
one I see four right big giant in the

3532
02:46:00,711 --> 02:45:56,771
middle of this field and that changes

3533
02:46:04,680 --> 02:46:00,721
you right the the whole meditation thing

3534
02:46:07,530 --> 02:46:04,690
I always dismiss and then when when you

3535
02:46:09,211 --> 02:46:07,540
do it so I've I'm starting to accumulate

3536
02:46:11,940 --> 02:46:09,221
now I've seen my trying I've

3537
02:46:14,341 --> 02:46:11,950
photographed a triangle in the sky I've

3538
02:46:16,680 --> 02:46:14,351
seen my things but I haven't had the

3539
02:46:18,570 --> 02:46:16,690
missing time I've seen a ghost

3540
02:46:22,980 --> 02:46:18,580
I haven't had I don't have the missing

3541
02:46:26,100 --> 02:46:22,990
time experience yet yeah I can only

3542
02:46:28,530 --> 02:46:26,110
imagine what you know I know I know I

3543
02:46:31,080 --> 02:46:28,540
want that story Chris what's up next for

3544
02:46:33,180 --> 02:46:31,090
you I know you're did you just finish

3545
02:46:35,310 --> 02:46:33,190
your screenplay or you're writing it now

3546
02:46:39,240 --> 02:46:35,320
what are you doing you've got a TV show

3547
02:46:41,220 --> 02:46:39,250
you're working on - right yeah I'm gonna

3548
02:46:43,470 --> 02:46:41,230
be coming out with a podcast called out

3549
02:46:45,631 --> 02:46:43,480
there with Ed featuring yours truly

3550
02:46:48,211 --> 02:46:45,641
we've been working on this for a while

3551
02:46:51,030 --> 02:46:48,221
we had Meg Griffin the famous DJ who

3552
02:46:53,310 --> 02:46:51,040
first brought the Ramones and talking

3553
02:46:58,020 --> 02:46:53,320
heads and the collage nearby to America

3554
02:46:59,791 --> 02:46:58,030
she's been doing our voiceover stuff so

3555
02:47:02,160 --> 02:46:59,801
that's going to be debuting here in a

3556
02:47:05,100 --> 02:47:02,170
week or so I'm real excited about that

3557
02:47:09,270 --> 02:47:05,110
get back on the air and then of course

3558
02:47:11,341 --> 02:47:09,280
you know the new product program out in

3559
02:47:12,690 --> 02:47:11,351
the San Luis Valley this spring I'm

3560
02:47:15,751 --> 02:47:12,700
going out was gonna put out the other

3561
02:47:18,810 --> 02:47:15,761
couple of cameras and get our scientific

3562
02:47:20,310 --> 02:47:18,820
your package calibrated out there and

3563
02:47:22,560 --> 02:47:20,320
start really getting some good

3564
02:47:27,751 --> 02:47:22,570
information everybody if you want to

3565
02:47:28,780 --> 02:47:27,761
help out go to go fund me.com a /nu fo

3566
02:47:34,240 --> 02:47:28,790
DAP

3567
02:47:36,639 --> 02:47:34,250
and then - SLV for assembly Sally so and

3568
02:47:38,500 --> 02:47:36,649
our strange planet comm was my website

3569
02:47:41,469 --> 02:47:38,510
there's a lot of good stuff on there -

3570
02:47:43,860 --> 02:47:41,479
if you're interested in in my work thank

3571
02:47:45,760 --> 02:47:43,870
you so much great conversation tonight

3572
02:47:48,550 --> 02:47:45,770
from start to finish

3573
02:47:51,550 --> 02:47:48,560
absolutely amazing and thank you looking

3574
02:47:53,050 --> 02:47:51,560
this up you know I know I know I know I

3575
02:47:54,849 --> 02:47:53,060
can't wait to get you back on the show

3576
02:47:57,900 --> 02:47:54,859
and we'll get the links up for the

3577
02:48:01,179 --> 02:47:57,910
GoFundMe let's do another round and and

3578
02:48:04,599 --> 02:48:01,189
thanks to your listeners who who chipped

3579
02:48:06,099 --> 02:48:04,609
in last month I mean if there are two

3580
02:48:09,160 --> 02:48:06,109
months ago it was really great you guys

3581
02:48:11,349 --> 02:48:09,170
you really helped get those that ship

3582
02:48:13,510 --> 02:48:11,359
paid for and get those two cameras up

3583
02:48:16,030 --> 02:48:13,520
and real soon and we're going to have

3584
02:48:18,460 --> 02:48:16,040
both both triangulated and we're gonna

3585
02:48:22,000 --> 02:48:18,470
be posting some pretty cool stuff and

3586
02:48:24,160 --> 02:48:22,010
get us the links up or let us know when

3587
02:48:26,710 --> 02:48:24,170
the site goes active next week and we'll

3588
02:48:29,440 --> 02:48:26,720
get that up there for you - will do

3589
02:48:32,280 --> 02:48:29,450
thank you so much Chris hey thanks for

3590
02:48:36,400 --> 02:48:32,290
having me on Jimmy have a great night

3591
02:48:38,769 --> 02:48:36,410
Chris O'Brien and what a fantastic

3592
02:48:44,200 --> 02:48:38,779
conversation but I got to tell you I

3593
02:48:49,599 --> 02:48:44,210
want to go back there I have I have a

3594
02:48:53,290 --> 02:48:49,609
friend that told me about his experience

3595
02:48:59,889 --> 02:48:53,300
and him and and the people that he was

3596
02:49:02,139 --> 02:48:59,899
with thought that it was an et contact

3597
02:49:05,320 --> 02:49:02,149
experience with these creatures on the

3598
02:49:11,170 --> 02:49:05,330
ground but this is if what he described

3599
02:49:16,320 --> 02:49:11,180
was very similar to what Chris just said

3600
02:49:21,969 --> 02:49:16,330
in that they were flat and they walked

3601
02:49:24,820 --> 02:49:21,979
sideways and then when in that they had

3602
02:49:26,889 --> 02:49:24,830
shaped from the front but then when they

3603
02:49:28,450 --> 02:49:26,899
looked around to the side they saw that

3604
02:49:31,559 --> 02:49:28,460
they were actually flat and they were

3605
02:49:40,679 --> 02:49:31,569
walking sideways and they shimmered and

3606
02:49:42,751 --> 02:49:40,689
I was told about that and probably 1985

3607
02:49:47,220 --> 02:49:42,761
1985

3608
02:49:49,110 --> 02:49:47,230
and the story was then repeated to me

3609
02:49:52,230 --> 02:49:49,120
many many years later a few years ago

3610
02:49:55,921 --> 02:49:52,240
and and and I had my memory refreshed on

3611
02:49:57,541 --> 02:49:55,931
it but that is that was that contact

3612
02:50:00,350 --> 02:49:57,551
that was that experience and that they

3613
02:50:03,660 --> 02:50:00,360
were they were 2d and they were walking

3614
02:50:06,270 --> 02:50:03,670
sideways and then when they got around

3615
02:50:10,650 --> 02:50:06,280
and and saw them turn that they were

3616
02:50:14,520 --> 02:50:10,660
actually flat and hearing Chris describe

3617
02:50:19,501 --> 02:50:14,530
it that way very very very interesting

3618
02:50:22,680 --> 02:50:19,511
2d remember the other I meant to bring

3619
02:50:27,631 --> 02:50:22,690
this up the orb that the the orb that I

3620
02:50:31,740 --> 02:50:27,641
saw up at ESET II it was flat that orb

3621
02:50:34,440 --> 02:50:31,750
was not spherical it was flat it was 2d

3622
02:50:38,881 --> 02:50:34,450
it was like a coin and it was flat it

3623
02:50:43,921 --> 02:50:38,891
wasn't it wasn't 3d something something

3624
02:50:46,320 --> 02:50:43,931
there's a 2d there's a 2d parallel world

3625
02:50:50,520 --> 02:50:46,330
out there that is a that is a

3626
02:50:52,830 --> 02:50:50,530
side-scrolling Mario Brothers game where

3627
02:50:55,110 --> 02:50:52,840
everything is 2d and doesn't have that

3628
02:50:56,700 --> 02:50:55,120
third dimension to it think about that

3629
02:51:00,900 --> 02:50:56,710
very interesting

3630
02:51:02,761 --> 02:51:00,910
Chris O'Brien the website is UFO d AP

3631
02:51:07,410 --> 02:51:02,771
comm it's going to go live next week

3632
02:51:10,350 --> 02:51:07,420
they've got one camera that is out there

3633
02:51:12,720 --> 02:51:10,360
now that is online they're gonna add the

3634
02:51:15,990 --> 02:51:12,730
second camera that is ready we will get

3635
02:51:17,850 --> 02:51:16,000
the go fund me up on Twitter and go and

3636
02:51:19,921 --> 02:51:17,860
help out all of us fade or knots get

3637
02:51:21,751 --> 02:51:19,931
together and get that done with that I'm

3638
02:51:24,690 --> 02:51:21,761
going to get out of here

3639
02:51:27,631 --> 02:51:24,700
this is fade to black and tomorrow night

3640
02:51:29,961 --> 02:51:27,641
right here on fade to black Johnny

3641
02:51:32,541 --> 02:51:29,971
Enoch

3642
02:51:33,950 --> 02:51:32,551
the new area 51 that's going to be

3643
02:51:35,600 --> 02:51:33,960
revealed tomorrow night we're gonna talk

3644
02:51:37,850 --> 02:51:35,610
about some ancient history too as well

3645
02:51:39,291 --> 02:51:37,860
little Egypt little South America and

3646
02:51:40,610 --> 02:51:39,301
Central America we would do all of that

3647
02:51:43,190 --> 02:51:40,620
tomorrow night Johnny Nina

3648
02:51:46,881 --> 02:51:43,200
Wednesday night Patrick would Tanakh

3649
02:51:48,470 --> 02:51:46,891
recei test technocracy 2.0 Thursday

3650
02:51:51,320 --> 02:51:48,480
night's another Fator night with Teresa

3651
02:51:51,860 --> 02:51:51,330
and Aris I'm your host Jimmy church fade

3652
02:51:54,200 --> 02:51:51,870
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3653
02:51:56,060 --> 02:51:54,210
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3654
02:51:58,520 --> 02:51:56,070
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3655
02:52:00,770 --> 02:51:58,530
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3656
02:52:04,850 --> 02:52:00,780
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3657
02:52:08,030 --> 02:52:04,860
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3658
02:52:11,631 --> 02:52:08,040
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3659
02:52:15,770 --> 02:52:11,641
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3660
02:52:17,780 --> 02:52:15,780
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3661
02:52:19,850 --> 02:52:17,790
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3662
02:52:22,041 --> 02:52:19,860
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3663
02:52:23,690 --> 02:52:22,051
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3664
02:52:25,220 --> 02:52:23,700
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3665
02:52:27,171 --> 02:52:25,230
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3666
02:52:30,110 --> 02:52:27,181
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3667
02:52:33,921 --> 02:52:30,120
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3668
02:52:35,980 --> 02:52:33,931
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3669
02:52:48,350 --> 02:52:35,990
everybody to be saved